Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 178141)

More than 10 years and more than 50 HP.... Yah, the system works *great*. :rolleyes: So how long do you think it'll take to get the new cars anywhere in the right zipcode?

Originally Posted by Dale Shannon (Post 178144)

Good point but that was for GM cars, it may take only 5yrs for the FORDS
Dale

Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 178090)

Greg,
In ALL honesty,don't you think that the horsepower rating on your combo is "favorable"?
I know for a fact that you have been at least a half second faster than me or my mom numerous times.
I know you probably feel that you "work harder on your stuff and deserve it"
Thats fine,but what about something like a E/SA Chevrolet Powerglide Camaro.Don't know the ratings,but I know you seem to have them by at least a few tenths too.

The real point is that horsepower ratings will NEVER be fair.

I like racing a 1970 442 Oldsmobile,but IF the numbers ever come out right on the lottery,I will be getting a new Mustang or a Challenger for Stock Eliminator.There is a huge advantage to having the faster car in heads up races.

It is NOT all bracket racing as some seem to think it is.

You won the Division 3 Championship a few years ago,and having the fastest E/SA car was part of the reason.

(Might want to change your signature line,not #31 anymore)

As far as not running any National events,I don't know what that will accomplish,but I'm glad I don't have to worry about running you at National events,although I'm sure we will meet a few times at some Divisional races.
Just my $4.42,but I think you are making too much of all of these bogus horsepower ratings.There are A LOT of bogus horsepower ratings.Some are definately more bogus than others,but my feeling on Heads Up races is this:

If you are in a HEADS UP race and are slower than ONE TENTH of a second in performance,all the other driver has to accomplish is .099 on the tree,and the SLOWER CAR CAN NOT WIN!
If you are a second slower,or a tenth slower,.099 on the tree WINS the race for the faster car.Simple as that!

CLOSE doesn't count in Drag Racing!

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 178141)

More than 10 years and more than 50 HP.... Yah, the system works *great*. :rolleyes: So how long do you think it'll take to get the new cars anywhere in the right zipcode?

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 178122)

A Stocker that can run 145 mph is not a Stocker.....

A new model Stocker that can run more than 1 second under on the brakes on the newly lowered indexes......has a bogus HP factor.....

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 178273)

If there are new assembly line or special production cars made in the proper amount for acceptance......that are capable of running 145mph after a normal Stocker type preperation......Their HP rating should be rated at least somewhere close to correct.

Up untill just a few years ago the highest class Stockers barely went 130mph.

That was after numerous "enhancements" and various improvements in engines and drivelines.


If new engine technology is head and shoulders above the old cars......their HP ratings should reflect that....


I have never seen any "Daily Drivers" in near stock condtion run in the 10's.....My idea of a Daily Driver means it is not really just a race car making believe it's a street car.........

I have seen a few Vipers and Corvettes run some pretty impressive numbers but not in the 10's........speeds were under 130 and they were driven to the track. I've seen some boostedstreet driven imports run some fast numbers as well but nowhere near 145.........