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C and W Racing 06-15-2011 12:44 PM

Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?
 
Personally, I don't like the drive by wire. That being said, I think it is legal
Chuck

Mike Comp T/A #57 06-15-2011 01:06 PM

Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 263794)
And, you get these apps where? What brand ECUs have Bluetooth? I tune most systems, no Bluetooth or wireless capabilities on anything I've encountered.

Ed,
I have a Bluetooth interface that hooks up to the OBDII port under the dash.

http://cgi.ebay.com/V-1-4-obd2-elm32...item2a10cdce66

Ed Wright 06-15-2011 02:31 PM

Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Comp T/A #57 (Post 263914)
Ed,
I have a Bluetooth interface that hooks up to the OBDII port under the dash.

http://cgi.ebay.com/V-1-4-obd2-elm32...item2a10cdce66

That is a basic OBD2 scanner. The new stuff is CAN interface. Scanners don't manipulate code in the ECU. Nothing like what was discussed.

Jason Fuller 06-15-2011 02:40 PM

Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Zaskowski (Post 263859)
I am not taking sides, but here is a link to a thing called "acceleration". If you understand physics, you can make sense of how they acquire certain times and speeds....but then again, I am only an engineer. Lots of fun facts and formulas below, enjoy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceleration

Nice job this weekend Kevin.

I called brad Charlie cause they look similar, sorry Brad.. :/

It's been awhile since I've seen Charlie.

A little calculus will tell is what's really happening with the throttle manipulations going on, right? Thank you Newton.:)

magnumv8 06-15-2011 07:48 PM

Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?
 
Ed....Bluetooth, WI-FI, 802.11 are all available to access data and monitor a vehicles functions with the proper interfaces and apps that are also available,with the micro electronics some of these are small enough to integrate into an ignition box or an ECU.....the technology has been out there for years (F1 has been able to do this for a long time but they aren't supposed to use it, same with INDY cars....monitoring is OK,tuning on the fly is not even though they can).....auto-tuning and or self calibration to a preset ET (once set) is pretty easily done for someone intent on doing it.....

D L Rambo.....

Larry Hill 06-15-2011 08:20 PM

Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?
 
Chuck of C&W try looking for a program that looks very similar to cruise control. You know you tell the computer how fast to run and the computer adjust throttle position, fuel delivery, and timing to trace a run.

Remember F1 had to pass a rule to have the driver shift the transmission.

Most if not all things are possible if enough money is spent in the right place.

Ed Wright 06-15-2011 08:45 PM

Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnumv8 (Post 263981)
Ed....Bluetooth, WI-FI, 802.11 are all available to access data and monitor a vehicles functions with the proper interfaces and apps that are also available,with the micro electronics some of these are small enough to integrate into an ignition box or an ECU.....the technology has been out there for years (F1 has been able to do this for a long time but they aren't supposed to use it, same with INDY cars....monitoring is OK,tuning on the fly is not even though they can).....auto-tuning and or self calibration to a preset ET (once set) is pretty easily done for someone intent on doing it.....

D L Rambo.....

The ECU has to be compatible for it to work. Monitoring is one thing, that is what scanners do. Manipulating the ECU's code, espscially on the fly, is another. F1 ECUs are one thing, Ford ECUs, FAST & Bigstuff3 are another. They do not support wireless (like Bluetooth) control. Looking for an interface connected to the interface cable (where you connect the laptop for tuning) is not hard to watch for. Could an ECU, like F1, be built to do that? Of course. Is one on NHRA's accepted list? Nope.

CBS 06-15-2011 09:02 PM

Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?
 
Get over it Larry....I could cheat if I had a pink Mopar...too..lol

Drive by wire is not desirable...for us anyway....it's just the way the new cars come.....if you run a factory ECU....you get drive by wire....if not...you use a cable....end of story....ask Bo....lol

JHeath 06-15-2011 09:09 PM

Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?
 
Charley, I'm confused, my 93 Mustang Cobra H/S car is nearing completion, and where should I set the throttle to prevent being blown off the track because I don't have a supercharger ? I'm thinking with all that horsepower that you found on the dyno, that if you get bumped into H/S, all my efforts will be for naught.!!!, and how would would I feel then. LOL!!!

Chris1529 06-15-2011 09:16 PM

Re: Would A Drive By Wire Car Be Allowed to Race ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JHeath (Post 264003)
Charley, I'm confused, my 93 Mustang Cobra H/S car is nearing completion, and where should I set the throttle to prevent being blown off the track because I don't have a supercharger ? I'm thinking with all that horsepower that you found on the dyno, that if you get bumped into H/S, all my efforts will be for naught.!!!, and how would would I feel then. LOL!!!


I'd set your throttle at 200% if I was you!


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