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The All Star Racing Association is a well oiled machine IMO and the people running it would be a good source to contact for ideas.

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Seems to be a problem everywhere!

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Not at Bowling Green. It can be 100 degrees air temp and 130 plus track temp and it hooks, or it can be 50 degrees and it hooks. You have to have track owners that care.

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Sorry Mike , I was not aware you ran your own stk/ss ser. I do run all of Dave Lay's stk/ss combo races at atco (east coast stock superstock asso.) . I try to talk as many racers into coming out to race , so I get what you are saying . Its local , track prep is good , competion is great , & you run for points & $ . Wish I had an answer for you Mike . I can only say I will take a look at your ser. schudule for 2012 and pass the word along to the racers I know ...... P.S What was that thing they used to scrape the track with at haggerstown , I was watching very carefully if you know what I mean saturday night ...lol..... Thank you for your efforts I / the races do value what it is that you do .

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Gee, we're a little spoiled here aren't we?
We used to race at the home track with no glue, whatsoever.. Bring your own!
You guys know the the glue just went up $300 a barrel? Get used to it. The local tracks make their money with T&T nights. A little spritz here and there...That's it.

Don, I've got this Bonneville here...You could build it with the pocket change you put on your dresser every night.
You could run the combos ,opens etc
Make lots of runs ..Get lots of hits and practice, just like the 2 car, touring pros..
What do you say?

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Markie - You're a born salesman - why not un-retire and move back East - I could use a guy wth your talent..................

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Mark, I could not disagree more. A track owner is selling a product. That product is a well prepared race track that offers solid consistent and reliable traction. If my car won't hook, why would I pay good money for his product? Honestly, if I load up and drive 60-100 miles, that's $80 worth of diesel for the round trip. Add to that 5 gallons of race fuel, at $12 a gallon. Then add $50 for test and tune. Even if I leave out the cost of oil and tires, not to mention wear and tear, I've spent near $200, if I don't buy anything to eat or drink. If the track does not hook like it should, I cannot learn anything other than how to avoid hurting myself or the car on a slick track. Hardly worth my $200 cash outlay, and a day's time.

The cost of doing business for everyone has gone up. Would you cut corners on a transmission you built for a racer, because it cost you more to build it? I know I will not, I refuse to offer a lesser quality product because it costs more to build a quality product.

It is inexcusable to have races decided on the quality of track preparation. That's a plain simple fact. If a track owner, promoter, or sanctioning body is cutting corners on track preparation to turn a profit, then they are stealing from their customers, both racers and spectators.

We work very hard and spend a considerable amount of hard earned cash to make our cars work extremely well. To have a track owner, promoter, or sanctioning body negate our hard work and hard earned cash with poor track preparation, after taking more of our hard earned cash is ludicrous.

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Alan, you know what happens when you start to rationalize the cost versus the fun factor.....???? BTW, I could use another golf partner!

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Arnold, I'm not really analyzing the cost vs. fun factor. But I do see your point.

Track owners who decide to cut costs by skimping on track prep are going to be wondering where their customers went. Just like anyone else who loses customers because they give them a lot less for their money. Racers are tired of being short sheeted by NHRA, the solution is not for track owners to short sheet racers, track owners who want more racers should be doing a better job of track prep, not a worse job.

I tried pasture pool, just never could get into it. I've got lots of stuff I can use to hunt and fish, if it comes to that.

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Dallas Jones owns Union Hill (Nashville,Tn) and Beech Bend(Bowling Green,Ky).

Union Hill had the best weekly combo program in the country, until Rick Gonzales. Rick is Dallas' son in law. He is not a racer or a good race track manager. Rick took something that was not broke and "Fixed It". The track used to hook but not any more. Start of elminations was at 7:00 pm. finals were 10:30 to 11:30. Car count was 18 to 25 most Saturdays. Rick's improvement was to have all finals at the same time. If you won you got your check about 1:30 am. S/SS Racers quit racing, due to poor track prep, waiting for hours for the next round, and with the late finish time it lost its famliy appeal.

Beech Bend is run by Clay Jones, Dallas's son. Its a GREAT place to race. For those that haven't been to Bowling Green, you need to put it on your list of places to race!! The two day combos are the best, we race Sat. nite and Sunday. Arrive Friday and spend the night in the campground and go to the park on Sat.