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gmonde 12-02-2011 11:17 PM
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i have built a couple of sway bars for customers and made sure they where bolt in,,it should be good but if your welding in supports on the frame like in the "chevy artical" i wouldn't think it would fly gmonde

hookdaddy 12-03-2011 01:13 AM
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You need to go back and look at the pictures again - the part that welds in under the floor is designed the reinforce the frame under the rear roll bar braces. The anti-roll bar bolts to those braces. A technicallty? Maybe but acceptable yep. The part has been around for years and is under several national & division winning Camaros & Firebirds including a recent world champs car. It's been looked at by tech guys in several of the divisions - never a problem.

Billy Nees 12-03-2011 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hookdaddy (Post 296793)
You need to go back and look at the pictures again - the part that welds in under the floor is designed the reinforce the frame under the rear roll bar braces. The anti-roll bar bolts to those braces. A technicallty? Maybe but acceptable yep. The part has been around for years and is under several national & division winning Camaros & Firebirds including a recent world champs car. It's been looked at by tech guys in most of the divisions - never a problem.
Well, there you have it boys! A technicality! Thanks Don.

rallye bob 12-03-2011 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete Muenzer (Post 296856)
Has anyone used this type? I would think this one would have no issues since it is all bolt in.

http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-...-Sway-Bar.html
That's a "solid" bar..... Much more weight than the http://www.hrpartsandstuff.com/produ...nd/swaybar.htm bar.... Just a FYI post...

nolongerracing 12-03-2011 10:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 296773)
Mark, sway is side-to-side. A panhard bar locates/centers the rear end under the car side-to-side, but will not control body roll.
That front bar is anti-roll also.
Why do my 2 stock street Camaros have both a panhard bar and a sway bar on the rear if both do the same thing?

Ed Wright 12-03-2011 10:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nolongerracing (Post 296911)
Why do my 2 stock street Camaros have both a panhard bar and a sway bar on the rear if both do the same thing?
It doesn't. It has a Panhard or sway bar and that bar connecting the two lower control arms is an anti-roll bar.

nolongerracing 12-03-2011 10:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 296768)
Sway bar = panhard bar. Locates the rear end side-to-side. Anti-roll bars control body roll. Two separate components. Body roll & side-to-side sway are two different things.
At least that's according to GM shop manuals.
I'm confused with your answers....if sway bar = panhard bar, why does my cars have both? These are mid 80's Camaros. They have a bar that connects the body to the rearend housing...panhard. They do not have a bar that connects the lower contol arms. They have a bar that connects to the body and the rear end. Is that an anti-roll bar? If so, why is it not legal to replace it with the aftermarket anti-roll bar?

Ed Wright 12-03-2011 11:08 PM
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As I said, the bar that bolts between the F body lower control arms is an anti roll bar. The bar running from the driver's side end of the rear end housing to the bracket on the frame, passenger side, prevents side-to-side sway. Some people tend to cal the anti roll bar a sway bar also. That is not accurate, but you go ahead and call it what you want.

hookdaddy 12-03-2011 11:15 PM
Re: Is this legal?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 296805)
Well, there you have it boys! A technicality! Thanks Don.
Maybe, Billy , Maybe

nolongerracing 12-03-2011 11:47 PM
Re: Is this legal?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 296927)
As I said, the bar that bolts between the F body lower control arms is an anti roll bar. The bar running from the driver's side end of the rear end housing to the bracket on the frame, passenger side, prevents side-to-side sway. Some people tend to cal the anti roll bar a sway bar also. That is not accurate, but you go ahead and call it what you want.
Anti-roll, anti-sway or stabilizer (according to GM parts) are all the same. The purpose of the panhard bar (axel tie rod according to GM parts) is to only keep the housing centered in the car. It is not a side to side "sway bar". So if it came with an anti-roll, why can't it be replaced with an aftermarket unit?


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