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Ed Fernandez 05-11-2013 12:11 AM
Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bailey (Post 381028)
FOR SURE !!!! NHRA National Events should be - for the Pros - . EVERY class should be Heads Up, first one to the line wins. Classes; Top Fuel, Nitro Funny Car, Pro Stock, Pro Mod, Alky Dragster, Alky Funny Car, Factory Stock, Top Super Stock, Jr. Super Stock, Top Stock, and Jr. Stock, plus Hemi Cars at some events. Qualified Fields, Fastest/First one to the Finish Line Wins.. Zero Fan Confusion, Go Fast or Go home!!!

Sportsnations/ Points meets, to Feature Comp and Class Racing as the headliner. NHRA to consult with and make Bill Bader the VP in charge of marketing and operations of Sportsnationals and Points Meets, including providing him the nesessary advertising budget/funding to make it happen.

Additionally ...Maybe, with some planning, the Sportsmen World Championships could be run and decided at INDY. Just my thoughts. JB
Jim not only has nice cars,is good looking but smart too.:>):>):>)

Dan Fahey 05-11-2013 12:42 AM
Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
I agree IHRA needs to stand up and take on NHRA.
Several recommendations were made earlier about bringing in Imports and bolstering Pure Stock would bring in more racers.

They need to take on there own personality to attract anyone interested to come and visit.

Top Fuel and Funny car are just too damn fast racking up huge insurance costs.
Paying into those Death Panel forces operators to go 1/8 mile or pinch on infrastructure.

One such simple recommendations is making Rest Room Facilities look professional and clean.
Drag Racing needs to have a more polished image which will bring in more women and kids.

Need to take on the image of a good gym with Showers.
MIR seems to have a done a major redo.

As for Pro Stock..three is nothing Stock about it.
It has gone Nascar.

Heads up racing is a great way to go and with all the new products out today.
IHRA would be wise to study the market to allow the current racer budget such seperate Heads up Super Pro Body and Rail Classes.
Standardize engines, Flat Top Pistons, Limited Lift, Spec Spring, would not even allow hood scoops.

Just NO Throttle Stop Racing !!

Another suggestion is to incorporate all the independent racing programs for Class Racing as they are well organized to make them also part of the Divisional Point Chase.

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boostedf22c 05-11-2013 12:45 AM
Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bailey (Post 381028)
FOR SURE !!!! NHRA National Events should be - for the Pros - . EVERY class should be Heads Up, first one to the line wins. Classes; Top Fuel, Nitro Funny Car, Pro Stock, Pro Mod, Alky Dragster, Alky Funny Car, Factory Stock, Top Super Stock, Jr. Super Stock, Top Stock, and Jr. Stock, plus Hemi Cars at some events. Qualified Fields, Fastest/First one to the Finish Line Wins.. Zero Fan Confusion, Go Fast or Go home!!!

Sportsnations/ Points meets, to Feature Comp and Class Racing as the headliner. NHRA to consult with and make Bill Bader the VP in charge of marketing and operations of Sportsnationals and Points Meets, including providing him the nesessary advertising budget/funding to make it happen.

Additionally ...Maybe, with some planning, the Sportsmen World Championships could be run and decided at INDY. Just my thoughts. JB

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Originally Posted by RULER (Post 381029)
Ding Ding Ding, We have a winner leave the bracket racing to the bracket racers.... Class Cars are much more fun to watch when they are run Heads-up. the word Drag race means first to finish not first without going to fast... Fix the HP. on extra soft combo's it's not that hard to do and go racing, HEADS-UP.
I like this.

Michael Beard 05-11-2013 08:23 AM
Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 69ss/rs (Post 381043)
Until the new IHRA steps up to the plate
Which means what, exactly? Many racers didn't support IHRA when they were at their strongest and were doing everything the racers said they wanted.


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Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
Didn't most people pitch a fit years ago when they separated the Sportsmen from Gainesville and sent them to finish up at Orlando?

danny waters sr 05-11-2013 09:08 AM
Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
If they split them up the fans would not have a car show to look at...Plus the pits would be empty and would make NHRA look bad............

partsbob67 05-11-2013 10:48 AM
Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
I don't think they will separate after they saw what sportsman racers do for the pros. with out us there the track was slick and was more of a smoke show than a race. they love us now! :)

James Perrone 05-11-2013 11:19 AM
Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tar Heel (Post 381021)
You're absolutely correct. I do have a "street" car with AC, all power equipment, and can 60' in the 1.50s and run a half second under the index and I still have stock exhaust manifolds and haven't been in the engine YET. In fact, I'm not far from the almighty NHRA B/SA index with a stock LS1. Forgive me for not needing someone to build me a $10K engine with $4K heads to run how far under? Another 3 or 4 tenths ...

And you wonder why people think SOME NHRA racers are pretentious. :mad:
Tar Heel What did the vette cost you...$40.000?..You dont have a race car as i pointed out..Class racing is WAAAAAYYYY different than a bogus PURE STOCKER,,,The convesation is about national events...your a wanna be Class Racer ...Do you wear gloves and sunglasses..oh and the gold chain when you race?LOL stay on the porch little dog

fredjohnston 05-11-2013 11:58 AM
Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
If Atlanta is any indication it looks like JR Dragsters will take the place of sportsman classes at NHRA National events.

Chad Rhodes 05-11-2013 12:14 PM
Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 381075)
Tar Heel What did the vette cost you...$40.000?..You dont have a race car as i pointed out..Class racing is WAAAAAYYYY different than a bogus PURE STOCKER,,,The convesation is about national events...your a wanna be Class Racer ...Do you wear gloves and sunglasses..oh and the gold chain when you race?LOL stay on the porch little dog
The only guys I've seen driving vettes with gold chains came from NY, might wanna watch that one. But you are right that this is about NHRA nationals, which doesn't have pure stock. Although Jeremy Preston has run a "street car" vette in NHRA stock for quite successfully.

Queball Lattie 05-11-2013 12:29 PM
Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
Maybe if Comp, Super Stock, and Stock went back to racing off the National record the fans would be more interested. Racing to 1000 feet is not interesting to the fans because they don't understand about saving your index. This would take class racing back to "Go fast or go home".


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