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DeuceCoupe 07-13-2016 02:13 PM
Re: 1967 Super Stock Nationals
 
Old Thread, new question:

I am looking at the Sep.1967 class records sheet from National Dragster.
It shows Tommy Clise as SS/DA=8.70 record at 114.3mph, 62 Plymouth.

I am trying to figure out what car this is!
I gather that right after that he switched to a 65 426/365 car.
But it says 62 Plymouth here and in Davis' SS book pg185. I cant find anything close to w/p=8.70 except:
62 Fury 3seat wagon 3559/410hp = 8.68
would NHRA let that slide as 8.70?

Or
62 Savoy 2d sdn 3159/343hp = 9.21
This fits but seems a waste in the 8.70 weight class.

Anybody know what car/engine the Clise 62 Plymouth was??

Related question -
On pg 181 of Larry Davis' Super Stock book, he says the new 440 DUAL QUAD Mopar could run in SS/E.
I have to read the NHRA rule book pretty loosely to come up with dual quads being legal, or were there a bunch of factory 440-8v cars I missed?
I read somewhere about the z28 running dual quads too in SS, so maybe it is a general question - when were non-factory dual quads legal in SS ? (I know the 383/343 is a special case!)

Thanks for any memories of these details!

Rat Patrol 01-24-2021 01:12 AM
Re: 1967 Super Stock Nationals
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe (Post 509070)
Old Thread, new question:

I am looking at the Sep.1967 class records sheet from National Dragster.
It shows Tommy Clise as SS/DA=8.70 record at 114.3mph, 62 Plymouth.

I am trying to figure out what car this is!
I gather that right after that he switched to a 65 426/365 car.
But it says 62 Plymouth here and in Davis' SS book pg185. I cant find anything close to w/p=8.70 except:
62 Fury 3seat wagon 3559/410hp = 8.68
would NHRA let that slide as 8.70?

Or
62 Savoy 2d sdn 3159/343hp = 9.21
This fits but seems a waste in the 8.70 weight class.

Anybody know what car/engine the Clise 62 Plymouth was??

Related question -
On pg 181 of Larry Davis' Super Stock book, he says the new 440 DUAL QUAD Mopar could run in SS/E.
I have to read the NHRA rule book pretty loosely to come up with dual quads being legal, or were there a bunch of factory 440-8v cars I missed?
I read somewhere about the z28 running dual quads too in SS, so maybe it is a general question - when were non-factory dual quads legal in SS ? (I know the 383/343 is a special case!)

Thanks for any memories of these details!
Not aware of Mopar ever building a 440 dual quad motor Deuce.

440 6 Pack or 440 single 4BBL.

99% certain only the Hemis , Sonoramics, early 383/413s and MW motors came with duals in the 60s

DeuceCoupe 01-24-2021 01:44 AM
Re: 1967 Super Stock Nationals
 
Thanks Rat
In the years in between I've concluded the same, the 440-dual-quad was a mixup or typo or something.

It was a little iffy since NHRA DID legalize the 1962 383/343-8v inline / tandem dual quad even though AFAIK none ever left the assembly line (at least not under the hood). That combo had a lot of wins in Stock/Auto classes.

On the "1962" Clise car I've concluded that it was a 63 wagon 426/415 max wedge, W/P=8.78, a very good fit to the 8.70 class.

Having gone thru a lot more of these sheets, I've concluded the car year is USUALLY right, but not always, even if it's given and legible.

Mark Yacavone 01-25-2021 12:03 AM
Re: 1967 Super Stock Nationals
 
First mistake is believing anything in Larry Davis' books.
Whoever writes the captions, if he doesn't know ,(he usually doesn't) he just makes it up!

HippyCNU 05-11-2021 03:19 PM
Re: 1967 Super Stock Nationals
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe (Post 509070)
Old Thread, new question:

I am looking at the Sep.1967 class records sheet from National Dragster.
It shows Tommy Clise as SS/DA=8.70 record at 114.3mph, 62 Plymouth.

I am trying to figure out what car this is!
I gather that right after that he switched to a 65 426/365 car.
But it says 62 Plymouth here and in Davis' SS book pg185. I cant find anything close to w/p=8.70 except:
62 Fury 3seat wagon 3559/410hp = 8.68
would NHRA let that slide as 8.70?

Or
62 Savoy 2d sdn 3159/343hp = 9.21
This fits but seems a waste in the 8.70 weight class.

Anybody know what car/engine the Clise 62 Plymouth was??

Related question -
On pg 181 of Larry Davis' Super Stock book, he says the new 440 DUAL QUAD Mopar could run in SS/E.
I have to read the NHRA rule book pretty loosely to come up with dual quads being legal, or were there a bunch of factory 440-8v cars I missed?
I read somewhere about the z28 running dual quads too in SS, so maybe it is a general question - when were non-factory dual quads legal in SS ? (I know the 383/343 is a special case!)

Thanks for any memories of these details!
Pretty sure that was a 383/343 Dual Quad that Tommy ran in the 62'--he ran a bunch of different engines bac then

Jim

Rat Patrol 06-15-2021 12:04 AM
Re: 1967 Super Stock Nationals
 
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Is there a list somewhere of the surviving 427 light weight Fairlanes? I believe Rich Lorenze from Brazil Indiana had one. I drive through that town once a month and Lorenze Auto Repair is still there. I'm going to stop one day and see if they have any photos around that I can scan if no one else has any.
Rich Lorenze passed away a year or so back....but his son Tony has the Fairlane and his 63 Galaxy.


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