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Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 456340)

Yes, Even better I have a beef about the HP factoring in general...Doesn't that explain all the New Car/Old Car discussion? I am only pointing out the issue isn't new. It is a basic flaw in classification of Motors. Some get overlooked because it only hits a small group and the new cars create a big issue because the same methods affect a larger group of racers. Is factoring only important if it is your class? I know it is not. It is a more broad issue and needs help throughout the classes and tech books.... Even better I feel my experience in racing 35 years can be helpful to the discussions even today..Thats why I support the return of Modified. Classes based on cubic inchs which cannot be factored or ignored . First man there with the same motor is the winner in my book. Do away with the factoring Crutch needed by some to be interested or competitive.

Rick Good Discussion. Merry Christmas.

I think this thread was started to discuss GT/AA and who is quick, not HP factors, new car vs. old car, or a new modified class.

If you want to start a new thread on only HP factoring that stays on point, I'll jump right in. Also needs to be a technical based discussion with reasons why particular combinations are under or over factored.

Merry Christmas

Very good point. Afraid you and I got afield in the discussion but the topic was " who is fastest?"

GT/AA 8.87 149.38 04/28/13 Jeffrey Lawrence - Quogue, NY
'88 Ford Atco, NJ

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Originally Posted by topspeed632 (Post 456378)

GT/AA 8.87 149.38 04/28/13 Jeffrey Lawrence - Quogue, NY
'88 Ford Atco, NJ

Jeff has done a lot more with a lot less than many others. He still uses a production block and heads, cast intake and an old carburetor on an engine that sits in front of a basic C4 transmission. And he's been fast for a long time in an older, boxy car that he may have built himself.

Imagine what he could do in a new, smaller car with all the bells and whistles.

What he has managed to achieve with his combination is impressive to say the least.

that fast with a old 780 vac sec. holley carb ....old school at it best

Not sure how long Jeff has had the car, but I can remember it growing up, and it was always fast. I do almost all work on our cars, and there is a sense of pride in completing and succeeding with a car built with your own hands.

Not to get off topic,another one that runs well with homebuilt and hard work is Jeff Roell with his 93 Mustang. He got himself a ride in a Cobra Jet for his efforts. And a great guy who will help you out if you have problems at the track.

one of these posts said jeff had not beat garys mustang. not true. jeff has outrun garys mustang several times. maple grove in class 2011and as a matter of fact when jeff set the record at 8.87 in 2013 gary was there and went a 8.91 i think . like someone said earlier just think if jeff had a cougar or a escort with a pro trans etc. the record would probably be in the low 8.80s or high 8 70s. he is the man in gt/aa!!!!!:)

i agree...jeff is the man ....i crew on jeff mustang....hope people are ready for the new jeff to come out.... wont say anymore