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Billy, I fully agree with you on this point. It's too bad NHRA didn't go farther.
A customer of mine wanted to build a 304 AMC. 2 more cubic inches, same 1.08 carb, heavier rotating assembly, 180 HP. Told him to go and look for a 302 Ford.

Jim Mantle

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Whoa there Mr. Graham, to quote you. "So If it's not a cadillac or chevy truck it is bogus?? They go 2 sec under and they are heros."
I'm not just referring to the Caddy or Chevy P/U, I'm also talking about the Banana Olds from AL, the Buick "factory" car that McKay (rip) had, Senia's Cimmaron, Mercury Turbo. All of them could absolutely bomb the index.

Quote, "A Ford goes 1 sec under and it's the end of life as we know it."
As far as the Ford being a 1.0 under car, that's plain out right BS. I watched Gary Summers from behind let off so early and still run under 1.0 it was ridiculous.

If you read my post I stated it was miscalculated not bogus. But when a combo comes in from a faster class and immediately becomes #1 by a huge margin, that is an error. Is it soft, no, it is more like a pillow wrapped in Charmin.

Seeking out a good combo is fine with me, I did it many years ago myself. I commend you for working hard to get it faster. But I am not sympathetic to your defense. Must be nice to have so many options on carbs and trannys. I'll just try to avoid your Ford in the lanes at the races while having a frosty beverage with you.

I consider "bogus", the HP ratings when the new Cobra, COPO, and DP initially came out. NHRA did right by separating them.

Billy, whether it be meds, no meds, or hallucinogens, the picture is still clear.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA speaking of hallucinogens

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i know they need to look at the hp on 1980 305s also.. i have a fortune in mine and can not qualify any mello yellow events cause i cant run the numbers.. really hurt me when they reset the indexs back in 2009, 10, 11 whenever it was..i took a 4 year break cause of it

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Class diversity is neat in a way but follow this post and see how all the guys subject to it respond once their "diverse combo" becomes #3 or 4 fastest by a "more diverse" combo. They all deserve major credit for their choice of combo and hard work. I know their frustration at being outshined by the new kidwith the newer combo. Such is the defect of using perceived HP. Always subject to new " decision" of HP not reality of HP.

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Dick, coming from a "Junior Stock" background, I'm surprised that you can't get your head wrapped around the allure of the, let's call them the non-rollbar classes.
They're the closest thing to "Junior Stock" we're ever going to have and from the looks of it's popularity, 45 years after NHRA put it to rest, I'd say that it was(is) the most popular eliminator that there ever was.

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Yes non roll bard classes...
Like Pure Stock. 😀
Well most of them!
D

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Billy, sorry The Jr. Stock era was lucky because there were a limited number of motors to factor, limited parts, and lots of competitiveness to WIN class, Run fast, Set records. Very few guys ran 1000 feet to save their car hp rating. Major problems of dial in due to running off records but....
If picking a HP today to take advantage of these classes is peoples thing, so be it.
Next year the "new Kid"(302), Cadillac, Vega Cosworth or Turbo Sunbird will make many feel second class again even though they worked hard to run their favorite. Too many possible combinations out there to predict and NHRA just might MAKE a new one.
Show me a one combo class in stock that cannot be killed by an outsider and I would be interested in Jr. Stock again.

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Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible! Frank Zappa

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Cosworth Vega, I don't of anyone ever running this combo but Jim Cassels was playing with his nearly stock Cosworth at SGMP Saturday looking for the V/S IHRA index.


Billy, give me a call one evening this week if you have time, 706-577-4272.


Thanks

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I agree completely Billy! Just some people were saying stuff like "all the lower classes N to U" or "N to V" which I took to mean that's where the classes cut off in general.

In NHRA, W is not diverse really...the cars are unique but the engine is almost always the 2.3 (140 CI) FORD except for a couple of guys running the 2.0. I haven't checked the stats in a couple of years to see if those guys are still running the 2000 or not.


I've always wanted to build a "U" car because of the diversity and competitiveness of the class. Maybe one day!