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amxron 04-23-2017 12:06 AM
Re: Is this a mistake?
 
It would be great if they listed all combos from 55-60 and not just chevy.

Ron.

HR9121 04-23-2017 01:29 AM
Re: Is this a mistake?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dartman (Post 532848)
I was told by a d1 tech that no drag pak car could race in conventional stock with a conventional stock motor because of the front suspension is not the same as the cars coming of the production line .
This not a Dragpak it is a showroom Challenger.

Tom Moock 04-23-2017 01:42 AM
Re: Is this a mistake?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Teuton (Post 507600)
The pink car is not classified as a Drag Pak. It doesn't follow the same rules as a DragPak. It's being classified as a showroom production car. It has a straight axle that was approved by NHRA. Other than that everything else on the car is avalible from the factory with factory part numbers!
This is from Joseph Teuton from last year.

Mark Yacavone 04-23-2017 01:54 AM
Re: Is this a mistake?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 532854)
This not a Dragpak it is a showroom Challenger.
How about the blue one?

Tom Moock 04-23-2017 02:14 AM
Re: Is this a mistake?
 
Joseph Teuton, stated the pink car had no vin. and had the same rear end setup as drag pack, so it must have started out as drag pack car.

David Lee 04-23-2017 03:32 AM
Re: Is this a mistake?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Moock (Post 532857)
Joseph Teuton, stated the pink car had no vin. and had the same rear end setup as drag pack, so it must have started out as drag pack car.
did mopar sell bodies in white?

Bobby DiDomenico 04-23-2017 08:36 AM
Re: Is this a mistake?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 532816)
I'm not completely thrilled with the idea, but if it is a legitimate production street combination, a car that meets ALL federal emissions and safety standards, sold to the general public to be driven on public roads, put it in the guide to run regular classes.

The rules are the rules. Now, rate them reasonable. Not soft, but not so hard that no one will build one.

But the factory race cars need to be in their own division of Super Stock, or Comp.
Alan,
Do these Stock Eliminator cars race at the real street car weight or has Chrysler provided NHRA a fictitious much lighter weight?
Do they run factory suspensions or do they have 4 links like the DragPak cars?

My car enthusiast friends do wonder why the DragPaks, Cobra Jets, and COPO's are not in Super Stock as they were never street legal cars and feel the new cars should be in the Factory Stock class (or another name) because the differences between racing a 1969 car and a 2017 are immense.

dartman 04-23-2017 08:44 AM
Re: Is this a mistake?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico (Post 532860)
Alan,
Do these Stock Eliminator cars race at the real street car weight or has Chrysler provided NHRA a fictitious much lighter weight?
Do they run factory suspensions or do they have 4 links like the DragPak cars?

My car enthusiast friends do wonder why the DragPaks, Cobra Jets, and COPO's are not in Super Stock as they were never street legal cars and feel the new cars should be in the Factory Stock class (or another name) because the differences between racing a 1969 car and a 2017 are immense.
Shipping weight is 3600 lbs 402 hp.

Bill Diehl 04-23-2017 09:09 AM
Re: Is this a mistake?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 532816)
I'm not completely thrilled with the idea, but if it is a legitimate production street combination, a car that meets ALL federal emissions and safety standards, sold to the general public to be driven on public roads, put it in the guide to run regular classes.

The rules are the rules. Now, rate them reasonable. Not soft, but not so hard that no one will build one.

But the factory race cars need to be in their own division of Super Stock, or Comp.
Run the class off national records will solve all this...no more "soft" HP, no more playing with the gas and hitting the brakes to "protect" the "soft" index

Once someone runs it out the back door the rest will follow....My question is...are we RACING here or playing games?

Larry Hill 04-23-2017 09:28 AM
Re: Is this a mistake?
 
Jeff was kind enough to let us use the car for our 2015 fall western swing. It was the Breast Cancer Awareness Car. We made it to the fifth round. In round five we raced Scott Burton heads up in B/SA and he beat the snot out of us. He was faster all the way down the track. I think the power on the 392 was at 389 hp, not the 402 hp that its rated at today. The car has very comfortable seats, they are so comfortable you could take a nap in them just like I did. It has full factory glass, power windows that work, hinged non Drag Pack hood with inside release, outside rear view mirrors, full dash, factory intake system ( its a one barrel ), and a killer sound system @ 7000 RPM. The biggest problem I see is it is very difficult to get the car to minimum weight, Challengers are just big cars.


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