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Bobby DiDomenico 05-08-2017 02:53 PM

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelo DiTocco (Post 534198)
So lets say for arguments sake that Jim noticed the tower's mistake as he left the line and was somehow able to pedal his way to a 12.00 and win the round.

Would he then be DQ'd for having a dial that's over the index?!?

That's why that rule is BS - and also because the driver is not the person entering the info into the computer.

They should have a key-pad at the ready line and have the drivers punch in their own dials... that way if its wrong... it is without question the driver's mistake.

Don't have the rule book in front of me, isn't there a line about dialing over your index not allowed? Have had the local track and the NMCA mess up my dial a few times. My fault for not checking, though when I did catch it they corrected it.

I was under the impression the NHRA software wouldn't allow going over it though as a girl I dated once said, "When you 'assume', you make an a....."

novassdude 05-08-2017 03:43 PM

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta
 
Every one keeps assuming the software will not let it happen but as often as it seems to happen it is obviously not the case. Just curios do all National event tracks run the same software?

Mark Yacavone 05-08-2017 04:10 PM

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 534251)
Every one keeps assuming the software will not let it happen but as often as it seems to happen it is obviously not the case. Just curios do all National event tracks run the same software?

Yes. They bring in their own clocks and tree.Of course, the track wiring has to be compatible with it.

Toby Lang 05-08-2017 10:20 PM

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelo DiTocco (Post 534198)
So lets say for arguments sake that Jim noticed the tower's mistake as he left the line and was somehow able to pedal his way to a 12.00 and win the round.

Would he then be DQ'd for having a dial that's over the index?!?

I have thought about this and I say if you can scrub 2 seconds off your ET and still get the win, you are the winner. This would be different from somebody purposely dialing above the index because they can't run it. They should be DQed immediately or if the tower catches it they are dialed-in with the index.

Mark Yacavone 05-08-2017 11:29 PM

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Lang (Post 534294)
I have thought about this and I say if you can scrub 2 seconds off your ET and still get the win, you are the winner. This would be different from somebody purposely dialing above the index because they can't run it. They should be DQed immediately or if the tower catches it they are dialed-in with the index.

Thinking along those lines;
How about if Jim had done as you said, and won the whole thing?
Post race interview, he says."Yeah , I saw the over the index (incorrect) dial-in in the 3rd round but I staged up anyway. I got a clean tree, then I waited for him , and then wheeled him all the way to the finish line.Thankfully, it all worked out."

Now what, NHRA?

Everett Vassar 05-08-2017 11:34 PM

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 534251)
Every one keeps assuming the software will not let it happen but as often as it seems to happen it is obviously not the case. Just curios do all National event tracks run the same software?

I have ran Compulink several times in bracket mode,but never in index mode. It is very simple...tab to the next field..ENTER...tab tab ENTER... in bracket mode..if you enter a car number, and that car number has been eliminated, when you hit the final ENTER the screen will flash BUYBACK.you must hit ENTER again before the system will accept the pairing. SO IDK why you wouldn't get a similar message if the dial is over the index....yes the car number gets entered before the dial.

Toby Lang 05-09-2017 12:09 AM

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 534299)
Thinking along those lines;
How about if Jim had done as you said, and won the whole thing?
Post race interview, he says."Yeah , I saw the over the index (incorrect) dial-in in the 3rd round but I staged up anyway. I got a clean tree, then I waited for him , and then wheeled him all the way to the finish line.Thankfully, it all worked out."

Now what, NHRA?

NHRA loads up and heads to the next race, while Jim treats his family, friends and crew to a nice victory meal.

Ron Ortiz 05-09-2017 09:57 AM

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta
 
So let me get this straight. If I leave the starting line and notice that my dial was over the index, and pedal it, and win by some luck, it is OK. So, that means that if I hurt my motor in a previous round, I just dial up to cover it and not be concerned with the incorrect dial if I can pedal or stay in it to hit it.

So, we are truly bracket racing with the flexibility of the dial.over or under the index. I guess all the people who have been eliminated for the wrong dial now have a second chance with this fiasco from NHRA. Now, lets add in Tru-Start.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA what a mess

HR9121 05-09-2017 10:39 AM

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta
 
I'm pretty sure if he had wheeled it and won the round he would've been DQ'ed even though he had the correct dial on his car he accepted the incorrect dial by staging. Best case scenario he might would've got a rerun but I would imagine just a DQ.

jcadreau1 05-09-2017 11:28 AM

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 534326)
I'm pretty sure if he had wheeled it and won the round he would've been DQ'ed even though he had the correct dial on his car he accepted the incorrect dial by staging. Best case scenario he might would've got a rerun but I would imagine just a DQ.


Why would he get DQ'ed? It was an error by someone in the tower and he did not intentionally dial over the index. If that scenario would have occurred then his opponent would then have an argument for a rerun. I'm guessing his opponent was aware of the incorrect dial giving his late reaction time and being well above his dial or maybe just caught off guard with Jim leaving first. What happens if Hildago redlighted and they DQ'ed Jim for staging with a dial above the index even though it was an error by the tower? Then you have the possibility of both drivers being eliminated and a round 4 bye to the next opponent.


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