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Coleydog 06-13-2017 07:40 PM

Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer ....
 
One thing I found that wastes time, after the finish line, even the slowest cars continue to the gate where the Top Fuel cars turn in. Why can't they turn off sooner at the first gate or have a turn out like an exit ramp on the interstate. They'll be out of the way so the next pair can run instead of waiting for them to turn off. That's what all those high dollar brakes are for!

ron b 06-13-2017 08:23 PM

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seems like a lot of the tracks allow to many people on the starting line. like on the tv shows, and why do you need someone to hold the back of the car when do a burnout.

Nmbr1GMfan 06-13-2017 09:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ron b (Post 537337)
seems like a lot of the tracks allow to many people on the starting line. like on the tv shows, and why do you need someone to hold the back of the car when do a burnout.

Because if the car has rear steer in it it will head sideways till the tires get cookin'.

Bob Mulry 06-13-2017 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nmbr1GMfan (Post 537309)
If you think tire prep leaves puddles of oil on the track you're crazy.

If you race and prep jrs then I will listen to what you have to say about tire prep......
If not you are just another stroke with an incorrect opinion

Nmbr1GMfan 06-13-2017 11:37 PM

Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer ....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 537347)
If you race and prep jrs then I will listen to what you have to say about tire prep... If not you are just another stroke with an incorrect opinion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 537307)
the unsafe racing conditions caused by lubricating the starting line..

This is just plain wrong, Tire prep will be dried into the tire within minutes up to the point of the durometer reading being stabilized. If they look wet it's possible the prep is heavy to the oil side but will be nonexistent by the time you leave the water. The car would spin uncontrolably if it were leaving oil on the track. What people are making isn't much different than a commercially available "track bite".

Daran Summerton 06-14-2017 07:01 AM

Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer ....
 
If I could afford it I would run a top sportsman car. However, it appears as of late it requires 6 people to get one in the frickin beams!

Rusty Davenport 06-14-2017 08:12 AM

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I'm always amazed especially if you are competing at a track for the first time----HOW HARD IT IS TO LOCATE THE STARTING LINE -----WHERE IS IT ????? TRY TO FIND THE STAGING BOXES OR JUST CREEP UP UNTIL YOU TURN ON THE PRE-STAGE ???? REALLY ????? TRACK OPERATORS NEVER NOTICE THE NUMBER OF DRIVERS FEELING FOR THE STARTING LINE -----MARK IT WITH ARROWS OR CONES OR SOMETHING !!!!!!!!!! IT KILLS A TON OF TIME !!!!!!!

Coleydog 06-14-2017 11:11 AM

Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer ....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Davenport (Post 537361)
I'm always amazed especially if you are competing at a track for the first time----HOW HARD IT IS TO LOCATE THE STARTING LINE -----WHERE IS IT ????? TRY TO FIND THE STAGING BOXES OR JUST CREEP UP UNTIL YOU TURN ON THE PRE-STAGE ???? REALLY ????? TRACK OPERATORS NEVER NOTICE THE NUMBER OF DRIVERS FEELING FOR THE STARTING LINE -----MARK IT WITH ARROWS OR CONES OR SOMETHING !!!!!!!!!! IT KILLS A TON OF TIME !!!!!!!

Good reason, there's usually two or more track personal on the starting at any given time, why can't they a least stand with their foot at (not on, all they have to do is stand there) the pre stage beam just like the pro guys do? "That's not my job"

Jeff Stout 06-14-2017 11:21 AM

Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer ....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Davenport (Post 537361)
I'm always amazed especially if you are competing at a track for the first time----HOW HARD IT IS TO LOCATE THE STARTING LINE -----WHERE IS IT ????? TRY TO FIND THE STAGING BOXES OR JUST CREEP UP UNTIL YOU TURN ON THE PRE-STAGE ???? REALLY ????? TRACK OPERATORS NEVER NOTICE THE NUMBER OF DRIVERS FEELING FOR THE STARTING LINE -----MARK IT WITH ARROWS OR CONES OR SOMETHING !!!!!!!!!! IT KILLS A TON OF TIME !!!!!!!

Good point. Maybe the stripe that is painted on track surface near starting line could be repainted often to keep it visible. For the life of me needing someone turning on prestage bulb with their foot and motioning driver is retarded. That's an easy 15 seconds that could be saved per car.

Bob Mulry 06-14-2017 12:09 PM

Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer ....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nmbr1GMfan (Post 537355)
This is just plain wrong, Tire prep will be dried into the tire within minutes up to the point of the durometer reading being stabilized. If they look wet it's possible the prep is heavy to the oil side but will be nonexistent by the time you leave the water. The car would spin uncontrolably if it were leaving oil on the track. What people are making isn't much different than a commercially available "track bite".


OK, Nmbr1....

This will be my last post on this topic

Why do find it's necessary to post on this topic?????

I don't know if you attended the race in Fallon but I do know that the conversation between myself and the starter was private and conducted at the starting line...

The starter stated to me and only me that they drag the track after each and every Jr session to return the track to "normal"....

Since in many of your postings you admit to your lack of knowledge regarding drag racing, I will attempt to give you some insight..

In Stock and Super Stock hundredths of a second mean something..

If a tire does not hook the same from one run to another, that is a wasted run...

To you spinning a tire would look like a nitro car burnout, but to us the change in 60 foot times by a few hundredths is spinning the tires....

You also appear not to have a frame of reference when making your posts on almost any racing topic....

You also tend to misquote people such as "If you think tire prep leaves puddles of oil on the track you're crazy.".....

This is why in this type of drag racing we cringe at sight of jet cars at the end of the day, because Stock or Super Stock is first out in the morning.
The kerosene that the jets use for fuel "lubricates" the track and change our 60 foot ET's......

I hope that this response has been helpful,
Bob Mulry


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