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Re: “Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

[QUOTE=Dan Fahey;567054]

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Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 566991)

Dan, have you tried to contact Rich personally? With IHRA’s demise, the best pure Stocker move is to get together and see if Rich would consider allowing them. I don’t think anyone would have any trouble with PS cars running. I know for a fact that it won’t happen just by posting here. I would think that there would be no downside for the 1/8 mile open series to let them in. Especially to add a few cars. I know a phone call and e mail is a lot more likely then a conversion to a NHRA J/SA

Thanks JAMES!
It is not just the PS cars also the GT Stockers too.
Thankfully the CM guys stepped up to get venues to race in.
CM, GT and PS Rules are the well established, nothing to invent.
There is no down side except for the resistance of a few racers!
More cars, more revenue, more bench racing.

Just sad that there are motivated racers willing to support the sport.
Yet the decision makers decided to shut us out.
IMHO Not a smart business decision!

Before the IHRA announcement there were a handful of people building new Pure Stockers and received questions from others what to do!
My advocacy was working, had a small movement going too!

Converting to Stock costs a lot of money and especially time.
Not just about adding a cam and roll bar.
It is also getting the car to run 7 to 8 tenths under to compete.
If I was 50 years old might feel different.
PS was the perfect venue to get back into Class Racing.
At 67....too much right now to move to Stock.

Had NHRA supported GT, CM and PS a lot more racers would have built them.
They are cost effective low maintenance race cars.
I am not a professional mechanic so takes a lot to be prepared.
Only so much can be done in a driveway under HOA Rules.

Hello out there to Gray, Bobby and Ray!

Peace

Sorry, it’s not NHRA s job to support GT,CM,and PS. ....1 800 FLOWERS.....I need your address......LOL...........

Re: “Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

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Originally Posted by Duane Eiskant II (Post 567016)

Ok here’s the main problem with pure stock. SINCE NHRA OPENED UP THE CAMSHAFT RULE THE ONLY SPECS THEY GOT FROM THE MANUFACTURER IS LIFT. NO OVERLAP, NO DURATION. HONESLTY I DONT THINK IHRA EVER CARED ENOUGH ABOUT IT TO TRY AND GET ALL THE SPECS AS THEY NEVER HAD TIME WITH THE DOUBLE RACES TO TEAR CARS DOWN ANYWAY. I’m pretty sure Bobby could put a stocker camshaft in his car and run one to two tenths under. The main issue is having to put a roll bar in the car. Right Bobby? The only reason ihra had some specs on the camshafts is the competitor had the manufacture submit them or when he ran the sportsman side of things my father got them from the manufacturer.

That was Mike Bakers job to acquire the cam spec's that he never did !

Re: “Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

[QUOTE=MR DERBY CITY;567056]

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 567054)

Sorry, it’s not NHRA s job to support GT,CM,and PS. ....1 800 FLOWERS.....I need your address......LOL...........

Actually yes it is !
They are being smart enough to support the CM’s..
GT and PS would have added 8-10 more cars.
The trend before IHRA dropped Class Racing was to build a non-traditional Stocker!
Had NHRA participated it would have doubled over night.

Importantly, it is a revenue issue!
Tracks run on narrow margins to stay profitable.
An additional 10 cars would help with Pit Fees.
Plus racers bring family and other spectators.
They buy things at the track, like Fuel, food, stuff!
Figure around $4000 more revenue just from the Stockers.

If you had a big bracket race they would have had twice the cars.
It is all about filling Pit Space!

Why limit your revenue intake denying other Stockers and SS?
NHRA has lots of money.
Not so with smaller tracks they are supposed to support!

IMHO NHRA is shooting their nose off despite their face.
Ok cool, handful of National and Divisional races have large draw of cars.
Participation is so large, racers have pre qualification rules to attend.

Not so with vast majority of other tracks....and this is ignored!
They struggle when it comes to supporting Class Racing.

In the Consulting world there is another term called Butts in Seats...
Class Racing it is Racers in Pit Space.

D

Re: “Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

Dan, we log on to this thread to see how our friends and fellow racers are doing at this particular race, not to read your incessant whining about a class that is long gone. You are old enough to remember that in '72 we were forced to convert our stockers to SS or the NEW pure stock class which went away in two or three years as we gradually got back to traditional stockers, so much for pure stock. Just be thankful that you didn't build a pro stock truck. I'm guessing you have much more money in an Impala SS pure stocker than many of our middle and lower class stock racers have in their stocker and probably some super stockers, just convert and move on or quit would be my suggestion.
One question, you live 100's of miles from these Div II events, tell us how many of them you would have made if they had run pure stock?

My two cents or YOUR subject, take a break.

Re: “Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

Dan just think of the money you wasted building your pure stocker, if you would have took that money and used it towards a traditional stocker you would have been over half way there. You get up here complaining about what NHRA should do for you but I have seen countless people try to help you on this board but you consistently ignore their advice. Kind of like your transmission, I even replyed to pm me if you wanted a good 200 that I was practically going to give to you but you never even attempted to contact me. Which by the way I sold it for $1200 dollars to a young man trying to improve his performance so I helped him out. You get up here and brag about refereeing soccer all day but now you're suddenly now you're too old to build a real sticker, get real man. Fact is Dan class racing is just not for you, you need a sport that has an "easy" button. Its like this, get off your *** and fix your car to current rules or get off this board with your childish rants every day about how NHRA is not treating you right! Everyone is sick of it!

Re: “Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

A Big Thank You to Rick, the Division 2 crew and everyone at Piedmont Dragway for their hard work putting on the race this Weekend. I'm sure out in the hot sun wasn't fun.

Re: “Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

I have a Chevy C 10 truck for sale if anyone wants to race at Indy.

Re: “Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

Well looks like the typical IHRA stock and ss. Fields
A bunch of Nhra racers racing with very few ihra type cars
Hopefully the d2 thing will be available for you folks
You just gotta race Folks .If not it will be gone
Like Pure Stock.
I find it interesting that some of the nicest racer have worn thin of The Delusional One
Word Cup on Fox. Soccer fans

Re: “Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 567098)

That was Mike Bakers job to acquire the cam spec's that he never did !

Thanks, Terry

Re: “Live from” the NHRA D2 Nat open series at Piedmont

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Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 567140)

Does your math intellect evade you ? CM motor was 40% of the Piedmont field. Your pacifier is wilting