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Paul Wong 05-30-2019 10:51 PM

Re: Karma's A Wonderful Thing.....
 
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Originally Posted by Sean Marconette (Post 589747)
If something happens at the track why not track down the person that was in the other lane and have a face to face conversation and get their side of the story? It's another way of meeting a fellow class racer and potentially making a friend. After all, most of us go to the track to have fun and interact with others with the same passion. Life's too short.

Actually Chuck E is a pretty easy to talk too and can be pretty entertaining. I have not seen him play any games since he came back with the camaro.

HR9121 05-30-2019 10:52 PM

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I really hope hope if that guy runs you again he treats you with respect you deserve. Like maybe riding you like a stuck hog ripping the gas 20 times while keeping about 7 or 8 thou in front. Now that's repect!

GarysZ24 05-30-2019 11:42 PM

Re: Karma's A Wonderful Thing.....
 
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Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 589766)
I really hope hope if that guy runs you again he treats you with respect you deserve. Like maybe riding you like a stuck hog ripping the gas 20 times while keeping about 7 or 8 thou in front. Now that's repect!

Given that's what most racers do when they catch a slower car fairly easily, that's just good racing, unlike what Dave was commenting on. When you put your tranny in neutral, turn off your engine, and coast to the finish line, that's BS, but I got the last laugh by stealing victory from defeat. In that same race I got paired up with Jody Lang in the 3rd round, and he lifted, didn't shut off his engine, and once he saw I was closing in on him, he got back on his pedal to keep his lead. That was more classy than that D5 guy from S.D.

As for you Mark, I look forward to seeing you too, but you also are an interesting fella. Unlike Billy Nees who met me and offered a cheap (actually free) ideal that actually improved my cars performance, you instead are critical(with exception to the header referrence), but everybody's told me that, and they're not cheap....and I haven't forgotten you bragging about your car being so much quicker than mine (and belittling the small but noticeable improvement I got from it, in comparison to your cars extra performance prowess), and Billy's asking you "Is that a challenge"? Oh yeah, you backed off then! So I've got one for you....when's your car coming back out to play with mine and Chucks, and all of the other D7 Stockers? The October points meet is about 4.5 months away....you going to bring it out then? Moreover, since you (for now) are the only pilot of a FWD Stocker to win a national event, if you do come out, how about it being with YOU behind the wheel???? Winning races with a FWD car is a lot harder nowadays than it was in '86, because back in the 80's Wheelie bars were only on Super Stockers, there was no Cal-Tracs, and manual tranny shifters were mostly (if not totally), "H" patterned, instead of inline. I proved past success to be true, by winning a High School Reunion bracket race in 1990 with a 4cyl, fwd auto, Chevy Celebrity....1st my bracket, then the King of the Hill Championship over the other three class winners! It was much easier to win then than it has been this century, so how about it, what do you say....will it be there, with you behind the wheel, going up against Chuck, Leo, Nanette, Jerry, Bob, Ryan, et.al.???? Let's see how you'd do today!!!! :)

Adger Smith 05-31-2019 11:11 AM

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To the top for Mark! LOL

Mark Yacavone 05-31-2019 11:24 AM

Re: Karma's A Wonderful Thing.....
 
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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 589772)

Oh yeah, you backed off then! So I've got one for you....when's your car coming back out to play with mine and Chucks, and all of the other D7 Stockers? The October points meet is about 4.5 months away....you going to bring it out then? Moreover, since you (for now) are the only pilot of a FWD Stocker to win a national event, if you do come out, how about it being with YOU behind the wheel???? Winning races with a FWD car is a lot harder nowadays than it was in '86, because back in the 80's Wheelie bars were only on Super Stockers, there was no Cal-Tracs, and manual tranny shifters were mostly (if not totally), "H" patterned, instead of inline. Let's see how you'd do today!!!! :)

Sorry, had to cut some of the drama, going back to 1990!
First of all , I don't have a race car, presently. Will I in October? Very doubtful.
Will I , for the AZSSSA opener next year? More likely.
I think I'll build a FWD ,stick car ,with an H pattern shifter. Just because they're so hard to win with .I like a challenge.
Plus there's a certain red car that seems to need some more competition at our local deal. No, not that 'ol Cavalier, silly boy ;-)

Dave Noll 05-31-2019 04:21 PM

Re: Karma's A Wonderful Thing.....
 
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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 589763)
Dave you should know the difference between lifting and clicking off your motor, and you say WOW to me....REALLY???? SMH

Yes, I know the difference. They both slow the car. Clicking off the motor in the lights is used for a plug check. (these days for those that don't use a wideband)

So the "clicking it" was disrespectful? I seriously doubt it was meant that way. Yes its ......... possible.

GarysZ24 05-31-2019 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noll (Post 589816)
Yes, I know the difference. They both slow the car. Clicking off the motor in the lights is used for a plug check. (these days for those that don't use a wideband)

So the "clicking it" was disrespectful? I seriously doubt it was meant that way. Yes its ......... possible.

Yes it's possible because as I stated earlier but you didn't interpret it correctly, the engine was clicked around the 900-1000ft mark, thus 320-420ft from "the lights". Lifting your pedal (with the tranny still in high gear and the engine running), actually slows down your car quicker than clicking your engine and/or placing your tranny in neutral and coasting, try it sometime you'll see. Thus, I will stick with my opinion, since the guy didn't click his motor off in the lights. I don't race that way, because I have more respect for my opponent than that, and hopefully (if he's still racing nowadays), he isn't doing it anymore either....

Time to get my budget together for my fall races, and for hopeful performance improvements that I can pay for, since I don't have the mechanical smarts of Mark or Billy when it comes to making slow running cars run 1sec under their cars indexes.... thank God for overtime!!!!

Neil Smedley 05-31-2019 10:56 PM

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Gary....Your too pre-occupied with the `guy in the other lane`...........put him out of your mind and concentrate on your package....

Dave Noll 05-31-2019 11:30 PM

Re: Karma's A Wonderful Thing.....
 
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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 589834)
Yes it's possible because as I stated earlier but you didn't interpret it correctly, the engine was clicked around the 900-1000ft mark, thus 320-420ft from "the lights". Lifting your pedal (with the tranny still in high gear and the engine running), actually slows down your car quicker than clicking your engine and/or placing your tranny in neutral and coasting, try it sometime you'll see. Thus, I will stick with my opinion, since the guy didn't click his motor off in the lights. I don't race that way, because I have more respect for my opponent than that,

No. I don't need to, I have already, I know how it works. There are several reasons that he chose to do what he did. I Seriously doubt that disrespecting you was the reason he clicked it. Just because you don't race that way doesn't mean that he or any other opponent does the same thing. Which is not a respect issue. In the end, this is bracket racing. It's all about the package. Only one wins.

nwebber 06-01-2019 02:03 AM

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Just light the pre stage and shut the car off. Done it a couple of times. Starter looks at you funny but it works.


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