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F677 07-26-2021 06:46 PM

Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator
 
Frank,
That's the all BS aside shot I like. I admit, I know I'm coming in as the bracket racer. My combo will not be easy, or likely to be 1 under. If it won't run .5 under I'll tear it apart and try again. Hoping for .8 to be honest. This is my "dip my toe in" start to big kid racing to see if it suits me. If it does, a more favorable (Ford) combo will follow. I hope to get to know you all soon, and you'll see that I'm no rub. If I'm in, I'm in, and I won't worry too much about the ladder.

fordteacherguy 07-26-2021 10:52 PM

Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator
 
Devin,

Looking over the 67 289 4v combo it has some good traits, +11:1 compression, heads are ok...typical small valve SBF head...making the Autolite 4300 4v work might be a challenge..small float bowl...there was a reason we called them toilet bowls in the.day...bone up on that particular carb tuning. Not a lot of stuff for that carb out there. Don't see it being a killer, but if you are determined...it looks like it could do the index...wish it had a better carb though...

1347 07-27-2021 07:29 AM

Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator
 
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Originally Posted by fordteacherguy (Post 644247)
Devin,

Looking over the 67 289 4v combo it has some good traits, +11:1 compression, heads are ok...typical small valve SBF head...making the Autolite 4300 4v work might be a challenge..small float bowl...there was a reason we called them toilet bowls in the.day...bone up on that particular carb tuning. Not a lot of stuff for that carb out there. Don't see it being a killer, but if you are determined...it looks like it could do the index...wish it had a better carb though...

Devin,
You may be better off running that car in super stock with that engine, you can run the replacement aluminum head, and it will be fine with a 9" tire and a caltrac. Whether you run stock or super stock, Vern Buchanan would be the person to talk to about doing the carb.
Good luck with the project

Jim Caughlin 07-27-2021 02:35 PM

Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator
 
Doesn't it make more sense to convert the car to a '68 and run the holley carb 302 combination?

One other thing, if you want to be taken seriously, might want to post your real name.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

Jim Caughlin 07-27-2021 02:37 PM

Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 644284)
Doesn't it make more sense to convert the car to a '68 and run the holley carb 302 combination?

One other thing, if you want to be taken seriously, might want to post your real name.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

Oh sorry, just notice you did actually post your name.

Larry Hill 07-27-2021 03:24 PM

Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator
 
It might be advantages to read and understand all of the AHFS.

Billy Nees 07-27-2021 05:08 PM

Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 644287)
It might be advantages to read and understand all of the AHFS.

Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaah, hey Larry, the next time that we speak, would you please explain it to me? Do ya think we'll live long enough?

F677 07-28-2021 04:46 AM

Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 644284)
Doesn't it make more sense to convert the car to a '68 and run the holley carb 302 combination?

One other thing, if you want to be taken seriously, might want to post your real name.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

This is one area I am curious about. How tight are the regulations on proper body trim? A 68 has very different trim on the quarter panels and side marker lights all the way around. Are all proper hood, trunk, and side emblems required? The 68 302 setup would be a lot easier to work with.

F677 07-28-2021 04:53 AM

Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator
 
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Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 644257)
Devin,
You may be better off running that car in super stock with that engine, you can run the replacement aluminum head, and it will be fine with a 9" tire and a caltrac. Whether you run stock or super stock, Vern Buchanan would be the person to talk to about doing the carb.
Good luck with the project

It may be a better setup, but for now it's not the right time. If running divisional/national events works well for my family and I over the next couple years, be sure that I will build another bucket that will can go chasing ET records. This is my walk before I run entry to playing with you folks.

1347 07-28-2021 06:44 AM

Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by F677 (Post 644332)
This is one area I am curious about. How tight are the regulations on proper body trim? A 68 has very different trim on the quarter panels and side marker lights all the way around. Are all proper hood, trunk, and side emblems required? The 68 302 setup would be a lot easier to work with.

I am wondering why you think the 302 combo would be a better combo to work with?

You can only run the Holley carb if you run the car as a Mercury in GT super stock. The Holley was only avaliable on the Comets and Cougars. You would need to run the same carb as the 67 mustang combo but with 18 more hp, a little hard to overcome being the same engine except for 13 cubic inches.

The rules state that the car must appear as a 68. So it is suppose to have all the features as a 68 such as trim, marker lights, emblems and anything else that was changed from 67 to 68. Enforcement will be up to your division tech crew, and although it has become more lax lately, I would hate to be told I can't run my car after all the effort spent of building a car and showing up at a race.


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