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GarysZ24 10-24-2021 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles Stewart (Post 650539)
Dear Sir,
Look closer at the Cobalt SS supercharged 2007 NHRA specs or even better, go to the classracerinfo website. You will find that the LSJ engine option with automatic transmission is accepted.
I had a chance to work on blower engine a couple of year before and after a lot of reseach on this car, I can tell you that the're a lot, a lot of potential with this particuliar set-up for a AAF/S car...
Keep on,
Charles Stewart

I'm glad the 2007 allows an automatic with it, because the 2005 version is 5spd manual only, and that's what I looked at.

GarysZ24 10-24-2021 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 650567)
Gary, where do you draw this conclusion from, with what's currently out there?

Maybe you're talking about 12 second cars. I wouldn't run one either..stick or auto.

Your former Monte Carlo, Billy's Cavalier (and mine), Ron's Tempo, Billy Owens' Grand Am, Bill O'connor's Omni, and the Charger & Aries cars of Brent and Stan Kopejtka, have been the most round winning cars this century, against the nowadays harder to beat muscle cars with automatics.

Charles Stewart 10-24-2021 09:35 AM

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Mr. GarysZ24,
Actually, you are not that wrong with your point.
At this time, I was not able to find any production specs, production number or production option that show a real LSJ 2007 SS S/C equipped with an automatic transmission.
Keep on,
Charles Stewart

Mark Yacavone 10-24-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 650606)
Your former Monte Carlo, Billy's Cavalier (and mine), Ron's Tempo, Billy Owens' Grand Am, Bill O'connor's Omni, and the Charger & Aries cars of Brent and Stan Kopejtka, have been the most round winning cars this century, against the nowadays harder to beat muscle cars with automatics.

I watch a lot of race results online and I'm just not seeing this, except for Billy, and yourself when you went on a tear last year.
The Monte was great when we had it.

Ellis V Buth 10-25-2021 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 650637)
I watch a lot of race results online and I'm just not seeing this, except for Billy, and yourself when you went on a tear last year.
The Monte was great when we had it.

Brent Kopetjka went on a tear last year (2020) too and finished #3 in D5 in stock with his FWD car.

I'm still on the fence about turning my 2005 Cobalt into a stocker for fun...

GarysZ24 10-25-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellis V Buth (Post 650717)
Brent Kopetjka went on a tear last year (2020) too and finished #3 in D5 in stock with his FWD car.

I'm still on the fence about turning my 2005 Cobalt into a stocker for fun...

Ellis I hope you will, and I'll be rooting for you too!

Mark, take note of the recent Vegas doubleheader, as Bill O'Connor made the final round of the 1st one.

As good as my year ended, I would've liked to have been in Brent's position both divisionally, and especially for the Allstars, where finished higher than my 6th place effort.

Mark Yacavone 10-25-2021 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 650745)

Mark, take note of the recent Vegas doubleheader, as Bill O'Connor made the final round of the 1st one.

Of course.I watched it. Without the incrementals in front of me, I'm not going to try to analyze every round ..But as you and I and Bill know , there's a lot of other factors involved besides dead consistency.
I told Billy he needed to put a stick in that car a long time ago ;-)

GarysZ24 10-25-2021 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nickh (Post 650559)
I have a 2008 Chevy Cobalt sports sedan with 2.4L I have been debating for months what to do with it, I think it would be a fun budget build Billy & Mark have given me some advice, still on the fence.

I hope you take their advice (given both have proven for many years that they're amongst the sharpest tools in the shed so to speak-I wish Billy was an Arizonan that's for sure, as he was helpful to my car 2-3yrs ago. Marks Monte Carlo gave me the mindset to take the space-saver wheels and put front runners on them, which was also what helped my car get to where it was last year, and be more competitive now), and go for it. I'd sure like to see or read about your car out here with us, so I hope you'll get going and do it!

GarysZ24 10-25-2021 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 650761)
Of course.I watched it. Without the incrementals in front of me, I'm not going to try to analyze every round ..But as you and I and Bill know , there's a lot of other factors involved besides dead consistency.
I told Billy he needed to put a stick in that car a long time ago ;-)

I'd rather Billy put an 8" torque converter in it with a shift improver kit (if he hasn't already). It didn't take him long to go from -.2 under to -.4 under.....I knew he could do it, which is why I wish Billy lived out west here so I could invest in some of his obvious know-how! Stick shifts are good for low-qualifier, but I think automatics are better for consistency.

Mark Yacavone 10-25-2021 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 650768)
I'd rather Billy put and 8" torque converter in it with a shift improver kit (if he hasn't already). It didn't take him long to go from -.2 under to -.4 under.....I knew he could do it, which is why I wish Billy lived out west here so I could invest in some of his obvious know-how! Stick shifts are good for low-qualifier, but I think automatics are better for consistency.

Actually I was talking about Bill O'Conner's car..Shouldn't have called him Billy .Everybody knows who Billy is :-0
I almost went the Ecotec /stick route myself..They are everywhere.. Then I found the Escort , thankfully..I really didn't want to go that fast in the eliminator ;-)

We're going in circles now ..Still want to see the evidence that automatic FWD's are more consistent.


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