Re: Never to early to think about Indy and AHFS
 

Paul were you able to find 1982 Indy? Where I'd like to look at it.

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[QUOTE=B Parker;656255]It's not I didn't say it was. At this point it has as much a chance to hurt me as it does to help. At Cecil County last year, I had a first-round heads up. Round one sheet came out late at night and online. Looked at it to see who I had. No heads up. In the morning they called Juniors up and we were next. My friend went and picked up a sheet, but we thought we already knew who we were going to run. He came back and said the ladder changed and we had a heads up first round. Didn't have time to tune all the way. Not sure how much my opponent was able to. If I ran it out I would have been close to 1.20 under. My opponent has the same combo as I do. Could have hurt the combo bad on that one run. BP[/QUOTE

My fault on the ladder change. I didn’t make it there until Saturday morning. I think I was the only car to show up on Saturday.

Re: Never to early to think about Indy and AHFS
 

Race clean “How will that help”?

At the Charlotte rave a few years ago on Sunday it was Heads up race between a 396 Camaro and a LT1 Firebird and both went 1.20 under and got power. Both cars are still great cars just not killer cars.

Re: Never to early to think about Indy and AHFS
 

Lets hope for many close headsup runs all the way to the finishline then;)

Re: Never to early to think about Indy and AHFS
 

That race in Charlotte made two of our engines boat anchors. No one heard us complain…in fact we congratulated Jeff on a great run. If we all races like that the AHFS would take care of itself. Fast cars will still be fast cars just in different classes.

Keep crying to the teacher.

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chicken **** nhra just revised automatic help for slugs ahfs rules backwards to what they were >>> no -95 mineshaft etc same as last 10 non working years

Automatic Help For Slugs cannot and will not ever work as long as we control data input and know the "rules"

captain

Re: Never to early to think about Indy and AHFS
 

At the end of the day it really doesn't matter if AHFS is ON or OFF. The Indy experience is all but dead for the SS/STK.

Quotes down from 180 to 140.
INDY bump is no long a real thing. I mean not that long ago there were 50-60 guys that did not get to race per class. At one time it was a privilege and an accomplishment to get to qualify and run eliminations at the U.S. Nationals.

Class money down from $1200-$1000 for a class win now it might be $300 if there are still three sponsors.

Allstars race moving to INDY pushing class and eliminations to an after though.

combos running -1.20 plus under to will class with no penalty

lack of teardown or staff that knows what there looking at. I think there might be 4-5 NHRA staff that actually know how to check a stk or ss car.

Combo class eliminations. This just sucks I will never understand how or why two single need to run each other for a $135 trophy.

no class winner bump in

Not racing on (Labor Day) Monday

These are what has killed the U.S. Nationals for most of us.
Until these things change INDY will never get better for STK/SS. lets Talk about there real issues.

Re: Never to early to think about Indy and AHFS
 

Boy Charlie-Bob, you pretty well nailed it!

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How many guys think Lonnie is making progress by listening to the racers and also by managing the Technical Department more effectively?
Forget about reversing the rules that have been bastardized for the past thirty years, but enforcing the rule book as it's written today in my mind is his core responsibility.
How does he do this with the current resources he has?

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INDY has been ruined for those that work on there cars! aHFS will never work and the less car counts the more is does not work. So all the bitching to the AHFS and changes. Time wasted! Biggest race of NHRA and it’s a joke for Stock and Super Stock because this was a Performmance based class. Now a bracket race!