Re: Ahfs
 

Stock Eliminator is a tough neighborhood to live in for those who just want to participate.

Those who make power do so the old fashioned way. They earned it.

Lower the indexes a .10 and not the trigger and let's see who earns it.

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How the he'll does lowering everyone's index a tenth fix anything?
So if you are a fast car that can run -1.30 and you lose a tenth then you are -1.20
Yet a typical -.80 good car is now a -.70 good car and the bump at Indy goes from -.85 to -.75 and number one is -1.20 or so. Maybe it eliminates mineshaft conditions being early and late in the season but it doesn't fix a fast combo being fast it only hurts the slower guys

Re: Ahfs
 

perhaps making any combination( any car in any class) that has had ANY run of "say 1.20 seconds AND/OR MORE under their current index" in the previous 2 years IRREGARDLESS of if its during qualifying or in eliminations, they will have their index re-adjusted by XX seconds---this will mean ANY AND ALL classes will be subject to the index change--ALL Stock and Super Stock classed cars will be subject to this change--FED 387

Re: Ahfs
 

Rich,
My points are these;
When was the last time the indexes were lowered?
With the enhancements to the rule book the current indexes are antiquated.
What percentage of Stock Eliminator cars can run a second under or more at will?
What percentage struggle to run .1 - .3 under?
How many races are qualified fields?
Frank

Re: Ahfs
 

Personally as a fan and no longer a racer I like to see performance and loath when racers de-tune their cars to protect their combinations for what? What are you saving it for? Why are racers making deals to race to 1000 feet during class eliminations?
For old school guys like me it makes me question why you guys do this crap.
Let it fly!

Re: Ahfs
 

Is the thought process to reduce index by .1 makes more cars that could be hit with HP?

Re: Ahfs
 

Metamorphosis

Re: Ahfs
 

I would rather not see the NHRA lower the indexes across the board. I know part of the whole “game” is picking the right combo, but it is safe to say that if I lose a tenth on the index, I will never be able to get it back, whereas some cars can easily go a tenth faster by either the tap of a keyboard, or turn of a wrench. I am trying to use as many of the “enhancements” given throughout the years that made many of these cars fast, but there are some combos out there, mainly in the bottom half of the alphabet, that no matter how much time or money you put into them, they will never be one second under players. I can and have played the game with getting a few hp back on the combo, but you have to purposely run the car slow to keep the average down. It was easy when I had a worn out engine, but pretty much counterintuitive at this point. Sorry if this sounds like a rant, but grouping all cars as being able to run faster with enough time or money is not really fair. I’ll see what a 3 speed will do for the car soon, but other than that, I’d have to find a better combination if I want to hang with combos much more responsive to the typical stocker techniques of today. That being said, the majority probably doesn’t really give a toss about slow stockers anyway. Rant over.

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Like Doug said, many, mostly "lower class" Stockers, do not , and can not , benefit from many of the "enhancements" that NHRA has been doling out to certain combinations in recent years. For many of the lower HP cars, there are no approved aluminum aftermarket cylinder heads, intake manifolds, carbs, etc available for their combinations. Not to mention that some people, actually like working within the limitations of the "crappy" components that their combination left the factory with. Certainly the enhancements have helped many racers, but not all, so it seems unfair that all the indexes should be reduced, when not all were gifted with "special" parts to improve their performance potential.

Re: Ahfs
 

How would you guys in the lower classes feel if they lowered the index's by .1 in cars from K up. Just a thought BP