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anytime you have an event in late October here in D1, with high temps typically in the upper 50's, you're bound to have sketchy track conditions especially if it's over cast or when the sun goes down.

Re: Dutch Classic Tentative shedule
 

It does seem that no matter what the track/division decides, there's always plenty of racers complaining about the decision. I do also believe that the old format for the race worked well. Division racing has definitely gotten out of control to where if you want to get a decent parking spot, you have to show up by Thursday morning early. From a track owner standpoint, they see that probably 50% of the racers are at the track by Wednesday nowadays, so why not start racing on Thursday, and leave Sunday as a weather day. I'm not saying I agree with it, I just see why management doesn't see it as a problem. And the unfortunate thing is, if less people show up this year because of the schedule change, especially after the overall low attendance last year, I doubt the very business oriented owners of Maple Grove will be looking forward to having the Dutch Classic on the schedule for much longer. From a business point of view, a late October money race would probably be more profitable than us. I guess the moral of my post here is, do I like the schedule change? not really. Will I still show up anyway? Yes because I want to continue to be able to race at the tracks that I love.

Re: Dutch Classic Tentative shedule
 

spot on comments!

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Considering C1 is counted as a Q run and since this is an experimental crossbreed between a national event and a national open, should we just go back to random pairing for C1 so we can resume the old format of late arrivals using C1 as their qualifier? If E1 has always been historically random pairing then maybe C1 could be as well.

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No, not when there is money and a Wally I involved. The Class ladder should be a traditional sportsman ladder. It keeps everyone honest. If anything, someone should lobby to allow the cars that can't run class to run at the end of class.

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So why not just put any late-comers that haven't made a Q run on the bottom of the sheet at 28.000 and put them into Class Elims. at that?

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I agree, you could put the late arrivals at the bottom of the ladder in his or her class as you would at a divisional.

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Just a reminder to be grateful we have a track to race at. We did lose two major tracks in the last 8 years in D1. The reason we only have 6 divisional races.

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I think one time run Friday morning before the start of class eliminations would address a lot of the concerns. That would give late arrivals a chance to get on the sheet and participate in class runoffs. It would also give any record setters from Thursday some extra time to finish putting their cars back together, or a chance to run after putting it back together. Should not affect Class eliminations as they move along quicker than the eliminator due to any classes that only have 2 cars don't come back after round 1.

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I agree Rob, do away with the two "Opens" and make the Numidia event a "Double Divisional" and turn the Dutch into a Divisional.