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John Mason 01-29-2009 03:21 PM

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In the late 60's I remember running against a T/S Volvo in Jersey. I believe it was called "Tom Thumb". I don't remember the driver/owner or anything else. It seems it wasn't around long.

mtkawboy 01-29-2009 04:49 PM

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At Miami Dragway in the mid 60s there was a 3 cylinder 2 stroke late 50s or early 60s Saab that they let run jr stock. We finally nailed him running a Gran Prix optional 3 carbs in a class claiming the 1 carb HP. Do not ask how or why they let it run, I have no clue. You guys are going to have to work to top that for oddest combo

Wade_Owens 01-29-2009 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mtkawboy (Post 103272)
At Miami Dragway in the mid 60s there was a 3 cylinder 2 stroke late 50s or early 60s Saab that they let run jr stock. We finally nailed him running a Gran Prix optional 3 carbs in a class claiming the 1 carb HP. Do not ask how or why they let it run, I have no clue. You guys are going to have to work to top that for oddest combo

I agree! That will be tough to beat........

Wade O

scorpa 01-30-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by doug schriener (Post 101457)
Mark-If you want to recall something odd,how about Ted Harbit and his Studebaker?

Ted Harbit ChickenHawkArticle
http://www.atatrials.com/pdfs/ChickenHawkArticle.pdf

mtkawboy 01-30-2009 02:40 PM

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The 1958-59 Sports version of the 93B had 48-50 hp in base version and 57 hp in super version. This model had triple carburetors. This is the combo the Saab ran, not much power but the lowest class at the time. He ran the 57 hp combo but claimed the 50 hp. My partner actually went down to his shop where he bragged about the A-holes he beat every week and explained how. My buddy introduced himself as one of the A-holes. The Saab was never seen again at the drags.

bill dedman 01-30-2009 02:47 PM

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Now, THAT's funny; I don't care WHO you are!!!! LOL!!!

Bill

doug schriener 01-30-2009 07:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Love (Post 103226)
I raced a 60 Chevy in SS/X in 1973 and the key was to take the plug out of the
back of the carb.Wouldn't idle at all but sure picked up the car ! The next year
NHRA came out with clarification that all vacuum lines and plugs must be tight.

I was wondering if Jim Kronenbitter is still around?He was a good guy and used to
live in Zanesville,Ohio. Does anyone know if Pat Kronenbitter of PK Racecars is related?

Kevin- I think Jim moved on to a S/S small block Camaro- It was mentioned in passing by a guy on here quite a while back.Seems to me it ran real good too.

Mark Yacavone 01-30-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by doug schriener (Post 103466)
Kevin- I think Jim moved on to a S/S small block Camaro- It was mentioned in passing by a guy on here quite a while back.Seems to me it ran real good too.

I believe Jim moved on to a 283 Chevy II .

Paul Dilcher 01-30-2009 08:47 PM

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MARK, you are right. Jim won class at Indy in 1973 with a Chevy II 283.

Bill Rolik 01-31-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by John Mason (Post 103257)
In the late 60's I remember running against a T/S Volvo in Jersey. I believe it was called "Tom Thumb". I don't remember the driver/owner or anything else. It seems it wasn't around long.


John,

By any chance, is this your H/SA Catalina? I shot this at Island a couple of years before I started racing myself. The name on the quarter panel is "Tomahawk".

Bill Rolik

SS 1514

Angelo DiTocco 01-31-2009 09:48 AM

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How about Charlie Graf's GT/A Cavalier w/ 350.... one of, if not the 1st front wheel drive conversion cars when rules first allowed it in the late 80's.

In the early 90's (maybe 1991) before I got into SS..... we went to the points meet and Englishtown (it used to be in May) to watch and that was the 1st time I saw a FWD conversion.

I had always been a fan of the big block GT/A cars.... like the Monte Carlos of Frank Brenneiser and Hoffman, and the GT/A Camaro's of Jim Bodreau, Don Ciccarone, & Sherwood Allen, Colbert (and I'm sure others I cant recall everyone right now). And I used to like to watch them go at it,

But that 1st time I saw that car, it was sitting on a trailer and the view was from the rear....... The rear was so narrow, and the tires so big..... I just remember thinking and commenting that it it looked like a "steam-roller".... and it ran really good too!

I have a VHS video from that day, I wish I could post it.... a lot of those guys (named above) are on the tape. If I remember correctly.... the GTA cars were running in the mid 9.70's.

Maybe someone could post of pic of that Cavalier

Bill Rolik 01-31-2009 10:06 AM

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Angelo,

Yes, Charlie's Cavalier was one of the first GT cars built. Jimmy Morgan of course did most of the driving.

Jimmy has moved to SC. The Cavalier is "out there" somewhere.

Charlie lives very close to me, and since I have a piece of business to visit with him about in the next couple of weeks anyway, I will ask if he has shots of the Cavalier.

Bill Rolik

SS 1514

Angelo DiTocco 01-31-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Rolik (Post 103540)
Angelo,

Yes, Charlie's Cavalier was one of the first GT cars built. Jimmy Morgan of course did most of the driving.

Jimmy has moved to SC. The Cavalier is "out there" somewhere.

Charlie lives very close to me, and since I have a piece of business to visit with him about in the next couple of weeks anyway, I will ask if he has shots of the Cavalier.

Bill Rolik

SS 1514

Hey Bill
Actually I meant to put in my post that I believe Logan Smith still has and races the car out on the west coast. (Where I wish I was right now........... I've really had it with the winters!)
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impstocker 01-31-2009 04:39 PM

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For those who want to see more of that MAD FRENCHMAN I check out this 1980 clip of Clem LaChance and his 6 cylinder Maverick, this is when he use to run a stick-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VSNHj0kOUI

This was a video from around 1978 to early 80's Lebanon Valley

Will Lamprecht

Dave Turner 01-31-2009 05:18 PM

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Mad Frenchman w/auto.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epuw26k--hs

impstocker 01-31-2009 08:21 PM

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Before Billy Nees...

1985 Lebanon Valley V/SA of Joe Huestis & Ed Lamprecht (my brother)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL-Xp...e=channel_page


Will Lamprecht I/S H/S #1427 68 Impala

joe huestis 01-31-2009 08:52 PM

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That video was from 1982 when they still ran a Stock/SS combo Eliminator at LV on a weekly basis.Car was sold by Ed to someone in Ohio at the end of the 1983 season after winning the V/SA class wally at the Summernationals in E-town that year. Ed defeated some guy who towed his car all the way from Cal. to run class at the Summernats. Our Nova was a total resto with all new chrome, upholstery, etc. She was a beauty, but never ran its full potential. If only I knew Billy back then !!
Joe Huestis
ANNIE'S SONG L/SA 9724

Mark Yacavone 01-31-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by joe huestis (Post 103642)
That video was from 1982 when they still ran a Stock/SS combo Eliminator at LV on a weekly basis.Car was sold by Ed to someone in Ohio at the end of the 1983 season after winning the V/SA class wally at the Summernationals in E-town that year. Ed defeated some guy who towed his car all the way from Cal. to run class at the Summernats. Our Nova was a total resto with all new chrome, upholstery, etc. She was a beauty, but never ran its full potential. If only I knew Billy back then !!
Joe Huestis
ANNIE'S SONG L/SA 9724


That would have been Bill O'Conner

Angelo DiTocco 02-07-2009 04:53 PM

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/photogr...ut/2861961193/

A pic of Graf's SS Cavalier can be found at this link

scorpa 02-08-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by joe huestis (Post 101704)
Two of the oddest combos I've seen would have to be the U/SA AMC Matador Sta. Wgn. from Cal. It had a 304 2V combination and was on this website for sale last year.
ANNIE'S SONG L/SA 9724

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...AGS/Image1.jpg

sportsfan 02-14-2009 03:05 PM

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Don Himes and Billy Nees,they are quite the combo!

Sean Haning 02-22-2009 12:49 PM

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Gray Ghost in action this past Friday:
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...2/_2205798.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...2/_2205898.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...2/_2205900.jpg

div 5 02-22-2009 02:04 PM

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Is this where Bob would say "and the fans went wild"?

Robert Swartz 02-22-2009 02:24 PM

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I remember changing a transmission in a Corvair when I was probably 16-17. We did it in a barn! That was one of the most miserable jobs I had to do in my life. As few of them as there are now, they are neat cars, today. As long as I don't have to work on it.

Robert Swartz


treessavoy 02-22-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by David Lee (Post 102985)
Can't remember who it was either but I remember he ran in a pinto. I thought it was a MP car


Bruce Sizemore ran a Pinto with a bored out 300, he cut up sets of boss 302 heads and had them furnace brazed together. Can't remember the year but I do remember that he ran so fast that he could have qualified for pro stock at least 4 times that year.
I ran an MP '65 Valiant with a slant six and a 4 speed that year.

Bob Bender 02-22-2009 03:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsfan (Post 105930)
Don Himes and Billy Nees,they are quite the combo!

Yes I remember them when I was just a baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

Dennis P Chapman 02-22-2009 03:42 PM

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Now that's funny Bob.

Dennis

Bob Bender 02-22-2009 03:46 PM

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You got me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p

Bench Racer 02-22-2009 05:43 PM

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Any one remember the Corvair that ran IHRA super stock in the 80's? IHRA had a class K,L,and M for the "non traditional" V8 cars and it fit in one of them. I remember seeing it run against some "faster" cars and get some BIG spots. If memory serves me, it had two Holly 2bbls. on it and ran in the production class. It was brown and has some SHORT rear tires on it. I heard the story that it got tore down once and the tech guys were scratching their heads trying to figure out what they were looking at lol! I think the car was from Michigan. Don Jackson

Caperat 02-24-2009 01:46 AM

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Back in the Sanair days i really liked Frank and Linda Mazi's blown Opel and Terry Hoards screaming "ROTARY" Mazda. Then it was any small cube SBC that ran Modified, Comp, Gas or Altered that had to be "ROWED" down the track. --- and i couldn't possibly forget the cold beer and hot chicks, but thats for another thread --- LOL

treessavoy 02-27-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Haning (Post 102131)
:eek: That thing must be fast to be heads up with Bucky!;)




Sean, looks to me like he's giving Bucky a half car before he leaves......this thing must be real fast!

Jim

treessavoy 02-27-2009 12:48 PM

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I remember a guy running in the AHRA in MP with a 1950 Stude coupe with a Pontiac Sprint OHC six 4bbl motor and a Corvette 4 speed and a '56 olds rear.

Don't remember the times but it was quick and held track records all over Texas....he drove it on the street also.

Jim

bill dedman 02-27-2009 02:02 PM

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Well, this wasn't a Stocker, but this was the weirdest thing I ever saw: Hot Rod magazine, way back, had an article about a '40 or ';41 Willys coupe that had a supecharged V8 under the hood that was force-fed pressurized air from a GMC blower that was driven by a 4-cylinder industrial engine of some kind. The blower and the auxialliary engine were both in the TRUNK!!!

It was called "Blown by Proxy".... lol!

Strange, indeed...

Mike Carr 02-27-2009 10:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 107974)
Sean, looks to me like he's giving Bucky a half car before he leaves......this thing must be real fast!

Jim


LOL. Not that fast. Been -.97 under with it (14.93 on a 15.90). Actually, I did leave first on Bucky by about a hundreth and a half. Meaning, against his car, I led the race for the first, oh, six inches or so, maybe.

treessavoy 02-28-2009 10:59 PM

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In the '70's there was a guy racing in the AHRA that was running a four cylinder ChevyII...but it wasn't the standard 4cyl.

It was a 283 cut in half with a hand made manifold with a Carter backed by a 4 speed with a '58 Olds rear.

It sounded really strange and ran well. Wish I had paid more attention to the engineering.

Jim

bill dedman 03-01-2009 12:52 AM

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There was a company named "SESCO" that sawed 283's in half, making an inline 4 for midget racers.
They were pretty popular in Midget racing back in the '80s.

The bore-center spacing on a Chevy II four cylinder is 4.40", just like a 265-400 small block. A SBC cylinder head can be "installed" on one by re-drilling the hold-down bolt holes, and adding some material to the outside of the block at the top, so the bottom row of hold-down head bolts have something to get hold of. Instant cross-flow head....

My partner, Harry Sparks (we had a Stocker that we share-cropped) and I were building a bug-eyed Sprite "gasser" with just such an engine in 1980. Had the frame and front-end built, a 'glass 1-piece front cap, a narrowed Chevy rear end, and a Brodix head for it, but, I moved away. He never finished the car, but I think it would have done some damage in the VW class. He still has it, but rules have obsoleted the combination, now.

AA/Different....

X-TECH MAN 03-11-2009 07:40 PM

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I was reminded this evening to mention a 1960 Pontiac station wagon owned and raced by a Paul Longnecker I think out of Ohio. He latter raced Top fuel and prior to that he raced in Pro Stock during the 1970 year in a Camaro. The old Pontiac wagon had a 288 or 292 small block Chevy with fuel injection sticking out of the hood like the old altered wheel base Mopars had. It rand E/G or F/G and weighed about 4400 lbs. It had a Mopar A833 4- speed trans and a 6.17 geared Dana 60 rear that lasted only about 13 to 14 runs before needing replacement (ouch). It was equiped with the factory 8 lug wheels and pulled wheel stands approx 2-3 feet high on each pass. At least it was different.

mtkawboy 03-12-2009 11:19 AM

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The E/G late 40s early 50s Packard that looked like an upside down bathtub with the 292 Chevy in it that left at 10 grand was impressive too. The name was Koeffel or something close to that

X-TECH MAN 03-12-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mtkawboy (Post 109690)
the e/g late 40s early 50s packard that looked like an upside down bathtub with the 292 chevy in it that left at 10 grand was impressive too. The name was koeffel or something close to that

"flintstone flyer"

bill dedman 03-12-2009 01:58 PM

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Dave Koffel became a Mopar factory guy in the '60s and still is active, as far as I can tell, within the Mopar community. This is one of his websites: http://www.b1heads.com/

But, his "Flintstone Flyer" SBC-powered Packard, and later, Studebaker Lark Gas Coupes were originally the cars responsible for his notoriety. The Mopars came later.


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