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HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416211)
YOU didn't put anything on me, I haven't owned that car in over 5 years but it's clear it's still the benchmark and target for team clueless and their ebay engine builder.

while you test and tuners continue to try and rotate the earth, my son who just turned 17 has far more experience on a dragstrip and in competition than your entire little club and the kid has run quicker and faster than anyone of that group in his first weekend of competition!:p

Ed, you need to do some research on Hot Street, if you do, you will find you have run no where near as fast, much less on a 10 inch tire @ 3350, of course you stay far away from heads up racing, far away.:cool:

1320racer 01-12-2014 09:14 PM

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says the guy that ain't been out of the 10's, ain't won a round in any class, ain't been 1.28 in 60 foot at 3880 lbs. no mind 1.17 in 60 foot and who's clients are exactly what they are...NOBODIES, career test and tuners at best!

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416215)
says the guy that ain't been out of the 10's, ain't won a round in any class, ain't been 1.28 in 60 foot at 3880 lbs. no mind 1.17 in 60 foot and who's clients are exactly what they are...NOBODIES, career test and tuners at best!


Won two strait championships in Hot Street as an engine builder, won every round for two seasons, except for one round, now thats heads up racing Ed, now Ed how many championships have your won in heads up drag racing, bracket man. Lets have facts and not more misinformation.;)

1320racer 01-12-2014 09:23 PM

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more lies, unproven claims and misinformation..

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416219)
more lies, unproven claims and misinformation..

I can only imagine what its like to do buisness with you. I've never seen seen anyone on the internet as quick to spread lies and misinformation as you,:rolleyes: Ed Bigley

1320racer 01-12-2014 09:39 PM

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ask Sunset Racecraft, a race engine builder whos clients are amongst the who's who of drag racing. Meanwhile, there are numerous posts and threads on numerous forums about you mark jones, your marketing tactics, your multiple internet user names used to support your claims, your deceptions, your less than good customer service and performance claims to customers not met like Bob West aka the former owner of the green weenie who also told you to remove his car and any mention of it from your website or he'd have his lawyer start legal action.

You prey on the naive, easily impressed and misinformed!

BTW, you never did tell us where the ball joint spacers that "relocate the ball joints" are in that photo.;) Just one of your many lies and misinformation!!!

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416224)
there are numerous posts and threads on numerous forums about you mark jones, your marketing tactics, your multiple internet user names used to support your claims, your deceptions, your less than good customer service and performance claims to customers not met like Bob West aka the former owner of the green weenie who also told you to remove his car and any mention of it from your website or he'd have his lawyer start legal action.

You prey on the naive, easily impressed and misinformed!

After building Bobs engine labor free, he did ask the person thay built my web site to remove his car. You should be reminded Bobs oval port production block, pump gas, engine I built in my shop, Chevelle was also quicker and faster than your Chevelle. Now for anyone interested, feel free to type in VORTECPRO 496 in to a google search, you'll find how out how out of line you are Ed. Garrett put the screws to to you also with my 467 production motor, to the tune of another 7 tenths over your aftermarket 522., and a 1.26 60 foot! Hows that happen so often?:eek:

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416224)
ask Sunset Racecraft, a race engine builder whos clients are amongst the who's who of drag racing. Meanwhile, there are numerous posts and threads on numerous forums about you mark jones, your marketing tactics, your multiple internet user names used to support your claims, your deceptions, your less than good customer service and performance claims to customers not met like Bob West aka the former owner of the green weenie who also told you to remove his car and any mention of it from your website or he'd have his lawyer start legal action.

You prey on the naive, easily impressed and misinformed!

BTW, you never did tell us where the ball joint spacers that "relocate the ball joints" are in that photo.;) Just one of your many lies and misinformation!!!


Again Ed, "Actually the pivot of the ball joint is raised .075 from stock, and the pivot point is moved outward .060. from a stock ball joint." What part of this do you not understand?

1320racer 01-12-2014 10:00 PM

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what part of...the ball joints in alf's kit do NOT have spacers and are located in the stock position in the A arm don't you understand? Of course you wouldn't know because this kit is not in any car YOU own and race!

now continue to compare apples to watermelons, this is all part of your deceptive marketing practices and claims. Bob's car weighed hundreds of pounds less than my car no mind garrets. more important to this they have stated numerous times on various forums over the past decade+ that it was I that educated them and it was the knowledge and advice I gave them that was the reason their cars worked as they did, not YOU!

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416232)
continue to compare apples to watermelons, this is all part of your deceptive marketing practices and claims. Bob's car weighed hundreds of pounds less than my car no mind garrets. more important to this they have stated numerous times on various forums over the past decade+ that it was I that educated them and it was the knowledge and advice I gave them taught them that was the reason their cars worked as they did, not YOU!

Bobs car weighed the same as yours. I do personally blame you for Bobs car not being faster, although he was faster than you, he did follow some of your bad advice, this in turn slowed him down. Not all your advice is wrong, but you never run a Mallory 140 pump on a 1.29 60 foot car, or 3 inch header collectors on a 9 sec car, and you never never told him any different.

1320racer 01-12-2014 10:10 PM

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more lies and misinformation. Now for the facts...Bob's car weighed 3600 lbs.+ complete with glass hood and bumper and the weight over the front tires was 1700 lbs. compared to my 2200+.

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416237)
Now for the facts...Bob's car weighed 3600 lbs.+ complete with glass hood and bumper and the weight over the front tires was 1700 lbs. compared to my 2200+

You mean now for the misinformation, Your insane:(LOL

1320racer 01-12-2014 10:15 PM

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Insane...NO, informed YES! :p

Just so happens I spoke to Bob 2 weeks ago, (the same Bob West that wants nothing to do with you and threatened you with legal action if you did not remove his car from your website) to help out a friend building a '68 chevelle stocker, specifically about his former car's nose weight and the santhuff spring he used.

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416240)
Insane...NO, informed YES! :p

Just so happens I spoke to Bob 2 weeks ago, (the same Bob West that wants nothing to do with you and threatened you with legal action if you did not remove his car from your website) to help out a friend building a '68 chevelle stocker, specifically about his former car's nose weight and the santhuff spring he used.

Bob never spoke to me about taking his car off my website. Legal action, you got to be kidding. Insane YES, uninformed YES. As far as giving suspension advice on a Chevelle, I see no problem there. Just stay away from the driveline, and everybody will be fine. I think you get your weight and 60 foots mixed up with Joey's.

1320racer 01-12-2014 10:31 PM

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again lies, but now it's damage control and again you talk about another car that the original owner sold in 2007, 7 years ago. Nonetheless, it had nothing for my car, weighed less and didn't 60 foot 1.28!

SSGN 01-12-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevellewagon (Post 116339)
I have a 69 Chevelle wagon that is a "natural" K car. It is a stocker and the suspension is the same set up from when W A Lee owned it as far as I know. When making any turn the body leans over greatly. The rear had one air bag on the right when I bought it and the front end lifted the left front off the track and the right stayed on the ground. I installed an air bag to the left and ran about 15 lbs on the left and about 30 on the right and it picked both front tires about 8 inches on the launch. I would like to update the suspension front and rear but I am curious about the way the car leans(scared the heck out of the local fire dept at one race on the turn off!). I have been told that the lower ball joints must have been lenghtened for the car to lean like that. Is that correct? Also notice that when the front tires are off the ground they appear to be straight not cambered in or out like so many cars I have seen. Is this set up good or bad.
Thanks to any and all help you gentlemen can give me. Not looking to set any records just want to be competitive..........lot's of luck!!
Phil Daly
K/SA 1686

I like these,simple but effective and won't break the bank.
http://www.hrpartsandstuff.com/
Kevin

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416243)
again lies, but now it's damage control and again you talk about another car that the original owner sold in 2007, 7 years ago. Nonetheless, it had nothing for my car, weighed less and didn't 60 foot 1.28!

I've never seen a full timeslip with a 1.28 60 foot for your car, but you would think a aftermarket 522 at (@FAST 60 CLOCKS PIEDMONT) would certainly be able to pull that off.

1320racer 01-12-2014 10:44 PM

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Another feeble and failed attempt at misleading those following along.:rolleyes: I did not recieve the 522 until winter of 2007 but you knew that already. Meanwhile this 700+HP cast iron headed 468 built by Rich Biebel who posts here was under the hood the entire 2007 season including 11/24/2007, just as it was every season before that since 1995.:p

http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=5259

now it's fast clocks:rolleyes, that's what those that can't do the same say!:p

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416247)
Another feeble and failed attempt at misleading those following along.:rolleyes: I did not recieve the 522 until winter of 2007 but you knew that already. Meanwhile this 700+HP cast iron headed 468 was under the hood the entire 2007 season including 11/24/2007, just as it was every season before that since 1995.:p

http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=5259

Can you post the entire timeslip? If not, why not?:confused:

Again, this a valid question: how does one 131 MPH in negative 1000 feet air = 700 HP, anyone.............?????????
And one more valid question: How does a car that runs 131 mph with a 1.28 60 only run 10.07?

1320racer 01-12-2014 10:57 PM

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stop the lies. just because you refuse to believe it, don't mean it didn't happen, the photos, videos and time slip don't lie and are far more than you have ever posted up regarding any of your claims! it ran 10.07 @ 131 in 1400+ air! Again, no one cares and it was almost 7 years ago, let it go!

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416250)
stop the lies it ran 10.07 @ 131 in 1400+ air! Again, no one cares and it was almost 7 years ago, let it go!

If thats so, what did it run in the 1000 feet negative air you guys see every year there in NJ. Can you post the full timeslip? So we can let it go, its up to you.

1320racer 01-12-2014 11:09 PM

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out of respect for Ken, I'm opting out. All this has been cover in this forum in countless threads ad nauseum. I have proven beyond any doubt with photos, videos and time slips that my former Chevelle did infact weigh 3880 lbs., did infact run a 1.288 60 foot, did infact run 10.07 @ 131, did infact have the cast iron oval port headed 468 under the hood that Rich Biebel built and neither performance achievement was performed in negative air nor were the clocks "fast". No matter how many times you ask the same question, the TRUTH and the FACTS will not change!

HP HUNTER 01-12-2014 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 416252)
out of respect for Ken, I'm opting out, all this has been cover in this forum in countless threads ad nauseum. I have proven beyond any doubt with photos, videos and time slips that my former Chevelle did infact weigh 3880 lbs., did infact run a 1.288 60 foot, did infact run 10.07 @ 131 with neither performance achievements performed in negative air nor were the clocks "fast". No matter how many times you ask the same question, the TRUTH and the FACTS will not change!

Its hard to imagine it didn't run 10.07, 3880 is pure BS, the 1.28 60 cannot be proven, no one has seen the full time slip proving its your car, you for some reason don't want to post it, you could put this all to rest but you choose not too. The 10.07 time slip could also be posted for the time of year, just post it up and lets put this to bed.


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