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TMonte 10-03-2010 07:09 PM
Re: Live from Atco , NJ - NHRA Lucas Oil Series
 
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Byron Worner 10-03-2010 07:46 PM
Re: Live from Atco , NJ - NHRA Lucas Oil Series
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian VP (Post 214378)
I agree Tim. Hey look I am not real fond on racing in the heat of the some but I am fond of racing and what happened this weekend was a complete and total waste of time and money for everyone involved. And now the rescheduled event will be in a time of year that will only make it tougher. I only hope we dont have the same problem next week.
When we race late in the year it should be at a national event quality track like Etown or Maple Grove. Why go back to Atco in two weeks between races at Maple Grove. Why not stay there for all three? Speaking of Atco, is anybody else except me tired of going there twice a year??? It seems to me every trip there is one adventure after another.

Ken Miele 10-03-2010 08:37 PM
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Here are some nice actions shots from John DiBartolomeo Editor-DRAG RACING ACTION Magazine http://www.dragracingaction.com/

Ken Miele 10-03-2010 08:38 PM
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More pics........

Michael Beard 10-04-2010 11:24 AM
Re: Live from Atco , NJ - NHRA Lucas Oil Series
 
I'm absolutely stunned that there were two pages of arguing about the rescheduling date. Back up a sec!

- Why was the event rescheduled? Because they pulled the plug.
- Why did they pull the plug? Because the track was deemed unsafe.
- Why was the track deemed unsafe? Because multiple cars wrecked (and others didn't wreck, but couldn't get down the track)
- Why did multiple cars wreck? Issues with the track surface.

Now: What was wrong with the track? Did they have water seepage issues downtrack? That I don't know -- quite possible, given the amount of rain we got leading into the event. If that were the case, they've probably had the same issue at some time in the past, and therefore the result would be predictable, and they should've pulled the plug before the event started.

However, regardless of the possibility of water seepage, you had other issues. Someone reported "this track has teeth!". I've heard Atco has a reputation for an outstanding starting line. This weekend wasn't it. If cars hooked well this weekend, it was due to the quality of the cars/tires/chassis setup and not the track. *I* didn't have any problems. My four-cylinder car was just ducky, as well it should be. That doesn't mean that the track was great. Look at the photos: the rubber was spotty at best, and a significant number of guys blew the tires off. No offense, but if you think that track had teeth this weekend, you need to get out of the house more.

I think the NHRA Div. 1 crew is a great, experienced group. It's not like they don't know how to prep a track. Think back to a discussion we had earlier this year: Cars have wrecked at NHRA events virtually from coast to coast this year. WHY? I asked that question earlier, "Why, why why?!", and it was suggested to me that "racers should work on their cars". Quite honestly, I think there's an issue with the traction compound, whether its an issue of the right compound being used, the compound being used correctly, or the compound being contaminated. I've heard of similar major issues being caused when the alcohol used to cut the compound mistakenly had top lube in it. It's like skating rink in a can.

My issue isn't with the reschedule date (this is the second time I've been to Atco, won first round, and then had the race rescheduled to a time that I couldn't make it back). MY issue is, can someone explain to me why the race had to be rescheduled in the first place, and I mean the ROOT cause? I'm sorry, but if you can't make a track work in 60-65 degree weather on a mostly sunny day, what exactly are you going to do to make the track work two weeks from now?

I made three laps in three days. The poor Super Comp guys only made 1 hit! That's just sad. I think we've all been to races with very challenging weather and conditions, and been able to complete the event (or even multiple events). This weekend was like the ill-fated Rockingham World Finals, without the cold weather, the dew, and without intermittent showers the entire weekend. I saw several guys from NC and SC... really? You're going to tell the guys that drove 12 hrs (let alone the guys from around the block) that you can't race when it's sunny and 60+ deg, just come back in two weeks? Good luck with that. I sincerely hope everyone who returns has a safe experience.

NOW, all that BS aside...

I looked at this weekend as a vacation, and as such, it was a great time. All of the NHRA Div. 1 staff was great as I remembered, and very friendly, from my stint running with them when I first got started in Stock in the late '90s. (H*ll, I think Wiggins is wearing the same big smile as he had the last time I saw him!) I got to see a ton of old friends, and met a ton of new ones. It's got to be the most benchrace-filled weekend I've ever had at a race track, and there were still many folks I wanted to catch up with that I never even got a chance to see. If you want to barbecue and benchrace, NHRA is certainly a great place to do it. I may run a handful of events next year, but realistically, as much as I enjoyed the off-track portion of my vacation, I like to *race* when I go to a race track.

Tolls, Entry, Fuel... well, y'know what, it was cheaper than Disney. :p Had a blast. (Don't expect to make any money when I go to Disney either) That said, I'm not going to Disney 12 times a year solely to hang out, and if I were looking at this weekend as a serious racing effort, I would be more than a little ticked. I may go to a few races with them next year, but I'm going to be much more selective, that's for sure.

Other notes on the plus side
- A big thanks to Billy Nees Race Cars (referring to the multi-national corporate conglomeration obviously, and not Billy himself, as he wouldn't want to be associated with me nor take credit for fixing my carb issue.)
- Thanks to Lew, Tom, and JohnD as always for photos!
- The rollout was crazy tight there, which was PERFECT for the little car. .014 in the last Q run, and .004 first round!
- Thanks to Strange Engineering for the Perfectly Strange Performance Award hat for the dead-on zero run first round!

Pics to follow....

Ed Fernandez 10-04-2010 04:09 PM
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Michael,it wasn't a sunny day at all.The sun came out sporadically and the wind was constant for quite some time.When I finally left at about 2 PM it was dead cloudy and the wind calmed down a bit.The weather plain sucked and was not conducive to allowing
high HP cars,whether hitting the starting line or throttle stopping down track,getting good bite.
Someone made a point about the super categories expecting to hit that surface with 800+ hp and hooking up.I was also told,by someone who's opinion I fully respect,that
some of the recent rash of crashes are due in part to parts failure,due to a lack of
preventive maintenance.
I totally agreed with the decision to postpone the event before any more incidents happened.By condolences go out to the three racers who had mishaps during the weekend.

Bryan Worner 10-04-2010 04:35 PM
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If they can't make the track good enough to race on in cool dry weather, then we need to not race there in the fall and race somewhere else that can handle all race cars.......like Maple Grove or Englishtown!!! I've raced at Hagerstown on colder days and nights and never had an issue!!!

Bobby Fazio 10-04-2010 05:36 PM
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Good points Michael,

But I sure wish they could have rescheduled on Saturday the 16th rather than Friday the 15th.. I believe roughly 60% of the entries remain, couldn't they have finished this all on Saturday and into Sunday the 17th if need be? I also try to look at it like a vacation and I love racing but not all of us can keep getting off for rescheduled events. I personally hate it but perhaps they could have made the rest of the race 1/8th mile on Sunday and then could have finished the race with a stout bottom end track prep?

I run alot of the bracket races at Atco and it is usually one of the best tracks as far as bite. Just too much rain preceding this event I guess? Anyways, as the cold weather approaches, I really don't know how alcohol cars will get down the track in two weeks, I am nervous for them.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 214537)
I'm absolutely stunned that there were two pages of arguing about the rescheduling date. Back up a sec!

- Why was the event rescheduled? Because they pulled the plug.
- Why did they pull the plug? Because the track was deemed unsafe.
- Why was the track deemed unsafe? Because multiple cars wrecked (and others didn't wreck, but couldn't get down the track)
- Why did multiple cars wreck? Issues with the track surface.

Now: What was wrong with the track? Did they have water seepage issues downtrack? That I don't know -- quite possible, given the amount of rain we got leading into the event. If that were the case, they've probably had the same issue at some time in the past, and therefore the result would be predictable, and they should've pulled the plug before the event started.

However, regardless of the possibility of water seepage, you had other issues. Someone reported "this track has teeth!". I've heard Atco has a reputation for an outstanding starting line. This weekend wasn't it. If cars hooked well this weekend, it was due to the quality of the cars/tires/chassis setup and not the track. *I* didn't have any problems. My four-cylinder car was just ducky, as well it should be. That doesn't mean that the track was great. Look at the photos: the rubber was spotty at best, and a significant number of guys blew the tires off. No offense, but if you think that track had teeth this weekend, you need to get out of the house more.

I think the NHRA Div. 1 crew is a great, experienced group. It's not like they don't know how to prep a track. Think back to a discussion we had earlier this year: Cars have wrecked at NHRA events virtually from coast to coast this year. WHY? I asked that question earlier, "Why, why why?!", and it was suggested to me that "racers should work on their cars". Quite honestly, I think there's an issue with the traction compound, whether its an issue of the right compound being used, the compound being used correctly, or the compound being contaminated. I've heard of similar major issues being caused when the alcohol used to cut the compound mistakenly had top lube in it. It's like skating rink in a can.

My issue isn't with the reschedule date (this is the second time I've been to Atco, won first round, and then had the race rescheduled to a time that I couldn't make it back). MY issue is, can someone explain to me why the race had to be rescheduled in the first place, and I mean the ROOT cause? I'm sorry, but if you can't make a track work in 60-65 degree weather on a mostly sunny day, what exactly are you going to do to make the track work two weeks from now?

I made three laps in three days. The poor Super Comp guys only made 1 hit! That's just sad. I think we've all been to races with very challenging weather and conditions, and been able to complete the event (or even multiple events). This weekend was like the ill-fated Rockingham World Finals, without the cold weather, the dew, and without intermittent showers the entire weekend. I saw several guys from NC and SC... really? You're going to tell the guys that drove 12 hrs (let alone the guys from around the block) that you can't race when it's sunny and 60+ deg, just come back in two weeks? Good luck with that. I sincerely hope everyone who returns has a safe experience.

NOW, all that BS aside...

I looked at this weekend as a vacation, and as such, it was a great time. All of the NHRA Div. 1 staff was great as I remembered, and very friendly, from my stint running with them when I first got started in Stock in the late '90s. (H*ll, I think Wiggins is wearing the same big smile as he had the last time I saw him!) I got to see a ton of old friends, and met a ton of new ones. It's got to be the most benchrace-filled weekend I've ever had at a race track, and there were still many folks I wanted to catch up with that I never even got a chance to see. If you want to barbecue and benchrace, NHRA is certainly a great place to do it. I may run a handful of events next year, but realistically, as much as I enjoyed the off-track portion of my vacation, I like to *race* when I go to a race track.

Tolls, Entry, Fuel... well, y'know what, it was cheaper than Disney. :p Had a blast. (Don't expect to make any money when I go to Disney either) That said, I'm not going to Disney 12 times a year solely to hang out, and if I were looking at this weekend as a serious racing effort, I would be more than a little ticked. I may go to a few races with them next year, but I'm going to be much more selective, that's for sure.

Other notes on the plus side
- A big thanks to Billy Nees Race Cars (referring to the multi-national corporate conglomeration obviously, and not Billy himself, as he wouldn't want to be associated with me nor take credit for fixing my carb issue.)
- Thanks to Lew, Tom, and JohnD as always for photos!
- The rollout was crazy tight there, which was PERFECT for the little car. .014 in the last Q run, and .004 first round!
- Thanks to Strange Engineering for the Perfectly Strange Performance Award hat for the dead-on zero run first round!

Pics to follow....

1752supgas 10-04-2010 07:03 PM
Re: Live from Atco , NJ - NHRA Lucas Oil Series
 
Track was very good all day saturday , sunday is a mystery , stopped raining friday around 2pm ????

Michael Beard 10-04-2010 09:22 PM
Re: Live from Atco , NJ - NHRA Lucas Oil Series
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 214608)
Michael,it wasn't a sunny day at all.The sun came out sporadically and the wind was constant for quite some time.When I finally left at about 2 PM it was dead cloudy and the wind calmed down a bit.The weather plain sucked and was not conducive
What? It was a beautiful day for racing, minus the headwind! That was the most comfortable its been at a racetrack since April.

While there were clouds in the sky, I refer to this as "mostly sunny". This was taken after they called the race. I'm a freeze-baby, and I was in a t-shirt as I loaded up.

http://www.staginglight.com/photos/a...ce_called2.jpg

But anyway.... here's some more pics from the weekend. Here's what we *started* with, Friday morning:

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http://www.staginglight.com/photos/atco10/track.jpg

Michael Beard 10-04-2010 09:32 PM
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Guide to Open Trailer Usage

When you're swapping fuel, make sure you're getting every last drop down to the front-right corner where the pickup is!
http://www.staginglight.com/photos/atco10/fuel.jpg

Another view of the mighty low-compression 2bbl Holley-Weber topped 2.2L
http://www.staginglight.com/photos/atco10/fuel2.jpg

All the world is a stage... and so is a well-placed trailer at 1000'!
http://www.staginglight.com/photos/atco10/trailer2.jpg

Everyone enjoyed the view
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Mid-track action between Nees and Ficacci...
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Getting the winning ticket... MOV = .003!
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Michael Beard 10-04-2010 09:36 PM
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Have this...
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Do this...
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Get this!
http://www.staginglight.com/photos/atco10/strange.jpg

Norm Lapointe...
http://www.staginglight.com/photos/atco10/norm.jpg

Super-sharp Panza ride...
http://www.staginglight.com/photos/atco10/panza.jpg

Michael Beard 10-04-2010 09:40 PM
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More top-end action....

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Michael Beard 10-04-2010 09:48 PM
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Last batch...

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http://www.staginglight.com/photos/atco10/stock85.jpg

Th-th-th-that's all, folks!

Joe Hertline 10-04-2010 10:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 214613)
If they can't make the track good enough to race on in cool dry weather, then we need to not race there in the fall and race somewhere else that can handle all race cars.......like Maple Grove or Englishtown!!! I've raced at Hagerstown on colder days and nights and never had an issue!!!

I don't know if anybody else noticed, but a couple of Top Fuel teams pulled in Sunday morning as I was leaving - I wonder if they planned on testing Monday, and if so, how that worked out for them given the condition of the track....

Ed Fernandez 10-04-2010 10:17 PM
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Michael,the sun never stayed out long enough to put any heat on the track.Period.And the wind didn't let up till after 1:00PM.When I left at 3:00 it was dark and cold.That track would have never come around.It seems it was a combination of the water in the track surface,the traction compound and the lack of tremal warmth that doomed the weekend.NHRA and Joe made the right decision.

Michael Beard 10-05-2010 10:05 AM
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Well, the extended forecast says that Saturday the 16th, the high is supposed to be 58 degrees in Atco. Don't bother going back then. Everybody here has run on colder tracks (MUCH colder, for many of us). But if the temperature isn't the problem, then you're back to 1) traction compound or 2) water. Given the wrecks that have happened all year, I'd look there first. And if it's not traction compound, then you're left with water, in which case they would've canceled leading into the weekend -- I'm sure it's not the first time that they've encountered this set of circumstances. Either fix the root of the problem, or understand the limitations of what can reasonably be done. Not picking on Atco -- I hear nothing but the best about their regular program there. Norwalk has dealt with it too (and continues to deal with it).

Bryan Worner 10-05-2010 10:24 AM
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Where is the schedule for the make up dates??? If they scheduled it for Friday, I'm going to blow a gasket!!! It will make me really believe that the division directors do not give a damn about their racers! The same racers that are paying their salaries!!!

BKSG1198 10-05-2010 11:03 AM
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Bryan,
If you have not seen it, here you go....and by your post at the top of the thread you have seen the schedule. Remember they did the same thing with Cecil, put it right on top of the Presidents Cup at MIR when it got rained out. Don't know if I'll make it back since I don't have any days left at work to take off.

October 04, 2010

Thursday - Parking begins at Noon for those returning to the Event. Gate will be staffed all night, 24 hours.

Friday - 1 time run session for all classes - Begin with Stock, Super Street, Super Stock, Super Gas, Super Comp, Comp, TAD, TAFC.

Eliminations continue following time run and will continue into Saturday.

Sunday will be the weather date.

Byron Worner 10-05-2010 11:13 AM
Re: Live from Atco , NJ - NHRA Lucas Oil Series
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 214678)
Michael,the sun never stayed out long enough to put any heat on the track.Period.And the wind didn't let up till after 1:00PM.When I left at 3:00 it was dark and cold.That track would have never come around.It seems it was a combination of the water in the track surface,the traction compound and the lack of tremal warmth that doomed the weekend.NHRA and Joe made the right decision.
I've raced on cooler, cloudy days at this track and others and had no issues. There was something done or not done that affected the track. My hunch is cheap traction compound that does not work in cool weather. I know this from racing at Pomona and the sad story of Phoenix.
We have the most expensive entry fees and the lowest payout of any division and the money isn't going to track prep. It shows!!! The only people getting f'd is us the racer! When will enough be enough.
Just my opinion. If anybody has any FACTS otherwise please share.

Ed Fernandez 10-05-2010 01:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron Worner (Post 214750)
I've raced on cooler, cloudy days at this track and others and had no issues. There was something done or not done that affected the track. My hunch is cheap traction compound that does not work in cool weather. I know this from racing at Pomona and the sad story of Phoenix.
We have the most expensive entry fees and the lowest payout of any division and the money isn't going to track prep. It shows!!! The only people getting f'd is us the racer! When will enough be enough.
Just my opinion. If anybody has any FACTS otherwise please share.
Byron,like you I just gave an opinion,not scientific fact.Irregardless I think everyone gave it their best shot and the reschedule was the right decision.
Incidently,thought my snail only 60's 1.75,I won Stock at Atco in 2006.I was the last car down the track after everybody,including most of thr Div 1 personnel bailed (about 10:30PM) and it was coooold.My 60' was the same as all the others that day.So I guess what you and others are saying about the new compound might have merit.
Sorry for injecting previous tales of earlier accomplishments.:>):>):>)

Byron Worner 10-05-2010 02:33 PM
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No problem Ed. I just wish certain people would "MAN" up and tell us the truth to the issue and not what they want you to hear.

Jack Matyas 10-05-2010 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron Worner (Post 214779)
No problem Ed. I just wish certain people would "MAN" up and tell us the truth to the issue and not what they want you to hear.
Byron -- Why don't you just call 'em up and ask ? Or better yet - most will be available this weekend for questions ..................

bottombulb 10-05-2010 04:19 PM
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I was one of the few cars to run on Sunday and I didn't have any issues getting down the track at all. But, I didn't run before the delay to let the sun beat on the track, I made sure I stayed in the groove, and I didn't hit the brakes at the finish line.

Robert Simpson 10-05-2010 04:35 PM
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I am wondering what, if anything, did the Atco crew do to the track that was/is different then there regular bracket/test program? Based on what has been said, that they did everything they could to make the track safe. Therefore, the problem lies in the use/mixture of a different traction compound? Why is this question such a hard one to answer? I am sorry for those that wrecked and prayers go out to the ones hurt.

Bobby Fazio 10-05-2010 04:53 PM
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Is an "Act of God" reason enough to be entitled to a (partial) refund if I can not get off work next Friday to make the rescheduled event that was not completed due to inclement weather? Just asking lol..

Bob Lasko 10-05-2010 05:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SStock1373 (Post 214822)
Is an "Act of God" reason enough to be entitled to a (partial) refund if I can not get off work next Friday to make the rescheduled event that was not completed due to inclement weather? Just asking lol..
A RETURN E- MAIL FROM BOB LANG:
We can not get it all done in one day

And we need to give everyone a time run, and still have a back up for weather. Most of the racers I spoke with would prefer Friday over Monday

Monday would need to be the weather problem day if we ran Sat and Sun

Thanks

Bob Lang
NHRA Northeast Division Director
366 Easton Road
Warrington, PA. 18976
Phone - 215-343-2558
Fax 215-343-0159
Website – nhradiv1.com
Are you an NHRA member yet? Join today! http://www.nhra.com/nhra101/join.aspx
________________________________
From: Bob Lasko [lasko@optonline.net]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 7:53 PM
To: Bob Lang
Subject: atco

Bob,
Most of us sportsmen racers are working people. We the sportsmen have to work and most cannot take a other day off. I myself cannot return on the Friday. The makeup for Atco should be on Saturday and Sunday. The race can be finished on Saturday and have a rain date of Sunday.

Bryan Worner 10-05-2010 06:21 PM
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I know of at least 3 racers that talked to a Division rep and expressed not to race on Friday to allow those who were in the IHRA Tournament of Champions a chance to come back to race on Saturday. But that suggestion obviously fell upon deaf ears!

So my question has to be.......how many racers did he talk to???

Brian VP 10-05-2010 07:20 PM
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Didn't talk to me. I know that I would rather take off on Monday if I have to than take off on Friday no matter what. If they only had 1 more round in going into Monday there would be a very few racers that are affected and have to change their plans. Now everyone does. Not a very smart idea.

RACER1530 10-05-2010 07:37 PM
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You gus are totaly right,monday would be only if the race was not completed.
Some fields are allready cut in half,you should be done early sunday at worst case.
But that makes too much sense !!!!!!
With the bad economy,having to travel back again,and take another day off work it only hurts those that have to work for a living!!!

BKSG1198 10-06-2010 08:23 AM
Re: Live from Atco , NJ - NHRA Lucas Oil Series
 
Prob talked to the TAD and TAFC guys to see what best suited them, since we have racers from Oregon and Vegas they prob said "Hey if you can get us in on Friday that would be great and some of us might be able to make it to Silver Dollar on Sat and try to qualify there".

Here's how many cars that are left:
8 TAD
8 TAFC
32 Comp Cars
39 Super Stockers
58 Stockers
42 Super Compers
1st round of S/G - Maybe 50-55 Cars
29 Super Street (Not counting half the cars that did make it down on Sunday)

Michael Beard 10-06-2010 08:37 AM
Re: Live from Atco , NJ - NHRA Lucas Oil Series
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BKSG1198 (Post 214976)
Here's how many cars that are left:
8 TAD
8 TAFC
32 Comp Cars
39 Super Stockers
58 Stockers
42 Super Compers
1st round of S/G - Maybe 50-55 Cars
29 Super Street (Not counting half the cars that did make it down on Sunday)
It should take roughly 8 hrs total to run 1 time trial and eliminations to completion.

BKSG1198 10-06-2010 09:02 AM
Re: Live from Atco , NJ - NHRA Lucas Oil Series
 
I will tell you one thing "if" they get the whole race in on Friday....there are going to be some P***ed off racers and I have a feeling they will as long as there are not oil downs, etc they will get everything in on Friday!

Bobby Fazio 10-06-2010 10:17 AM
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Guys, is there any way we can write a letter strongly expressing our desire to run the rest of the Atco race on Saturday the 16th and get the majority of the remaining competitors to sign/approve it? Don't the guys coming from extremely long distances have to leave a day or two in advance in order to be race-ready for Friday, thus burning even more vacation? With the low number of remaining cars and what looks to be an enticing 10 day forecast, we should be able to get the entire race in on Saturday or by noon on Sunday at the latest.

Bryan Worner 10-06-2010 12:34 PM
Re: Live from Atco , NJ - NHRA Lucas Oil Series
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SStock1373 (Post 215009)
Guys, is there any way we can write a letter strongly expressing our desire to run the rest of the Atco race on Saturday the 16th and get the majority of the remaining competitors to sign/approve it? Don't the guys coming from extremely long distances have to leave a day or two in advance in order to be race-ready for Friday, thus burning even more vacation? With the low number of remaining cars and what looks to be an enticing 10 day forecast, we should be able to get the entire race in on Saturday or by noon on Sunday at the latest.
Bobby, great idea! But you're fairly new to this game so I'll tell you now, they don't listen! They do what they want, or what's convenient for them!!! They could give two ****s about the racers and their plans/ideas!!!

joe176 10-06-2010 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 215049)
Bobby, great idea! But you're fairly new to this game so I'll tell you now, they don't listen! They do what they want, or what's convenient for them!!! They could give two ****s about the racers and their plans/ideas!!!
NHRA is trying to be cooperative with regards to Reading...Bob Lang replied back to me and said they would tech me in if I showed for Friday morning. Glendora is transferring no shows also.

david ring 10-06-2010 01:37 PM
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Is anybody available to do a rain dance for Friday?

Angelo DiTocco 10-06-2010 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by joe176 (Post 215054)
NHRA is trying to be cooperative with regards to Reading...Bob Lang replied back to me and said they would tech me in if I showed for Friday morning. Glendora is transferring no shows also.
I'd say that is a pretty admirable reaction by D1 & NHRA in light of the current situation.

Dan Fletcher 10-06-2010 03:40 PM
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I'm planning on arriving Thursday late afternoon, with the hopes of parking and teching. There exists a decent chance that I don't make it in time to get in. Between me and the kids, we have four entries. I hadn't even considered that tech would be closed Friday morning till I read Joe's post, but obviously it makes sense that it could be. Not to be redundant, but Joe, you're very sure that Lang said we can tech Friday am?

Thanks...

Bobby Fazio 10-06-2010 03:46 PM
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I also didn't consider tech being closed on Friday. I was going to work tomorrow and head up early Friday morning or late tomorrow night. Are they shutting it down at 5pm sharp tomorrow? I know Joe personally asked Bob Lang but was Lang only extending the offer to Joe for his circumstances or to all the sportsman entries?


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Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher (Post 215088)
I'm planning on arriving Thursday late afternoon, with the hopes of parking and teching. There exists a decent chance that I don't make it in time to get in. Between me and the kids, we have four entries. I hadn't even considered that tech would be closed Friday morning till I read Joe's post, but obviously it makes sense that it could be. Not to be redundant, but Joe, you're very sure that Lang said we can tech Friday am?

Thanks...


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