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Maverick 12-30-2010 02:25 PM

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I don't see that happening any time soon, unless something happens to my legs. I hope that does not happen. I like three pedals to operate with two feet. Plus if I put a Glide in it then, I would probably have to get something to control the throttle for me going down the track. And then I don't believe, for me it would be as much fun or a challenge. Looking foward to the upcoming season, and good luck on repeating what you did in 2010. Congratulations Champ!

Wayne Kerr 12-30-2010 05:17 PM

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Hey Maverick,
I think Rock better be on his toes, some "little guy" might want to break Rocks legs after Rock worked him over here on Class racer".
I did hear he has some 4 speed experience..............


See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

CBS 12-30-2010 10:52 PM

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Mind your own business....wanker........And don't give them any ideas...lol

sweetpea 12-31-2010 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CBS (Post 230036)
You guys sound like Democrats......lol...

Let's outlaw cars that make it easier to cut a light on a 400 tree....What are you guys smoking...

its a 500 tree and 99 percent of the cars in super street don't spin....so whats the issue...I don't believe a tube car is more consistent than a back half car....

one more thing ...how fast do the division champions go....are they all 150 plus cars...get off the speed thing....and worry about racing....it is what it is......

Super street is a great class....I have many friends that run it....it takes the same expertise that super gas does......

Rock...

Hey Rock--you having fun in here???I agree--let's just go racing!-Scot

CBS 12-31-2010 10:01 AM

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Just stirring the pot up a little......lol

DIAPERMAN 12-31-2010 10:04 AM

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Bailey does enough of that

DIAPERMAN 12-31-2010 10:37 AM

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What happened to Super Comp 112 I have to make this comment if it pisses some off so be it. Racing is a progressive sport wether you run drag or circle track cars.You start off at the local tracks and hone your skills and depending on you finances you start to travel or stay local.If you come up with sponsor or money you step up to the next level.Where did it ever change? No one makes money racing at a sportsman level not even Rampy or Peter not even Fletch ask them they will tell you at best the make a living.So this being said either you can afford to race at a certain level or you cant dont blame the guys that spend all thier money and time out racing at the NHRA National level

Duane Dagostino 12-31-2010 10:38 AM

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Rock...any luck on the hand/foot brake issue???

Barney B 12-31-2010 04:05 PM

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And all I wanted was free entry at all national events and .50 cents a gallon for gas to get there;)

BB whataudo

CBS 12-31-2010 10:08 PM

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No headway yet...but I wouldn't remove it...

Tom DePascale 01-01-2011 12:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr (Post 230621)
Hey Maverick,
I think Rock better be on his toes, some "little guy" might want to break Rocks legs after Rock worked him over here on Class racer".
I did hear he has some 4 speed experience..............


See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

Rock need some PROTECTION ? Wayne where is my shirt?

CBS 01-01-2011 02:18 PM

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Looks like I might need some.......lol

Steves68Nova 01-01-2011 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cal (Post 226635)
Do you think S/ST H/R would be a better class with no throttle stop?
Should S/ST H/R be for back half type cars only?
Must have Stock Firewall and a stock dash?
Should the minum weight be raised to 3000 lbs?
Should all cars in S/ST H/R have a glass windsheild?
I really like all the different types of cars competeing in S/ST H/R.

I like the 5 tenths Pro Tree, as far as the Scotty rule goes, I think you should only be able to run 1 super class, if you want to run a 2nd class run Stock or Super Stock, T/D or T/S, or? (but it really doesnt matter to me)
The 10.90 index is fine, but so would a 10.50 index too.

Of course it would be a better class with no timers. All of them would be, but they aren't going to change it now. I would like to see the weight moved to the same in both HRA's

What does chassis cars and back half cars have to do with anything? You can't tell from the outside. Same thing with the glass, firewall, and dash. What difference does it make? I am thinking you believe there is a advantage to chassis cars? If you are running an index, what difference does it make?

The scotty rule is stupid. If you have a license that allows you to race a faster class then why shouldn't.t you be able too? The index if fine either way here also. But I would have a problem with 9.50 for Super Gas. I would have to spend a bit of money.

Steve Prado
Rudy, AR

Steves68Nova 01-01-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lazrcng (Post 226738)
IMHO.........


Make a new class 7.90 (any MPH you want)....call it Super Eliminator! :rolleyes:

Why not just call it Top Dragster and Top Sportsman?

Steve Prado
Rudy, AR

Steves68Nova 01-01-2011 04:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CBS (Post 230525)
the changes you mentioned are very unlikely anyway....they are more likely to outlaw red cars....

Now I got the wrong color car. Story of my life.

Steve Prado
Rudy, AR

Tom DePascale 01-01-2011 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CBS (Post 230865)
Looks like I might need some.......lol

I gave Mario your # he called Don Vito and Sally Boy so they will be in touch with you ! Anything else just call me ! WHERE IS MY NEW SHIRT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wayne Kerr 01-01-2011 11:30 PM

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Hey Tommy,
Large for both you and Chris?
Need a shipping address.
Can send this week.


See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

John Moore 01-02-2011 04:04 AM

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I voted on one of these polls. Also received the e-mail from NHRA for S/G.
Knowing NOTHING will be done, I went to the extreme on the vote to an 8.90.
A lot of racers are right, nothing will change on the timers.- ETC.
NHRA and other sanctioning bodies for over 25 years has created the monster of electronics in race cars. Personally, I beleive this is a great thing. Technology is there to improve even our daily cars and what we have learned from our racing equipment has been handed down into our own little grocery-getters. What or where would our major automakers be if they did not have all the test information of race equipment to adopt in our cars we drive daily. Enuf of that.............
Even our engines over the last twenty years have gotten better and especially in the last 10-15. The Horsepower in them has almost doubled and in some almost tripled , when NOS, turbocharging and supercharging is taking place.
A lot of us are going so much faster today then we did several years ago. NHRA and other sanctioning bodies keep imposing the safety rules to more strict standards and theyprobably should for each driver's sake. That is why we went ahead the Head and Neck restraint this last year. The SFI -15 suits were a big enough bite, but , we are past that.

S/ST is a beginner's bracket of the Super Classes and it should stay that way. Although, I feel ther shuld be some major reminders about that in the fact of speed. Yes, even NHRA throws that wrinkle about speed into all of their quivers of the rules. If you have a S/ST car and it runs the index and goes 135 mph then you must have the Competition License and other driver apparell for safety. I think the decision should be made to keep it a BEGINNERS Class- No competetion Driver's license and no SFI 5 suits ,etc. If they want to drop the index .20 to .50 down from the 10.90, GOOD then do, it and move on. If, not then GOOD, move on.

As for the S/G and S/C classes, we all know the safety items are going to hit like the T/S and T/d classes are now probably in a couple more years and I say that especially if they even decided to drop those index's .20 -.50. or more.

I do believe the less time on the T-stop will help some of the spectator participation but we all know an awful lot of them are tired of seeing the cars/dragsters on the stop 2-4 seconds. As I said in one letter to a division director. If you want to keep everything interesting ( which will piss off a lot of people) take all your super classes and place them into a 32 car field like T/S and T/D and make them all qualify for their index and rest who do not qualify run a bracket race. Now, that will make the masters of weather and timers make the show and those that don't will have to try harder the next time.Just like in T/S and T/D ,if you don't qualify you watch. NHRA is mNOT goping to make an ALL Run field in T/S and T/D like the SUper Classes and that people I think is not fair.

So there, That's my .02 cents and since it is 2011, that term needs to be updated to my $2.00 worth.

Maverick 01-02-2011 05:52 AM

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Cool, What do you think the spread is in T/D or T/S cars from the number 1 qualifier to the number 32 qualifier is? That don't sound too bad on the thirty two car field, it will make the test and tune sessions more valuable for people to get extra runs so they can get there cars in, and it would definitely narrow down the field. Probably be more of a advantage to have two cars to get mores runs and having a chance of getting one in. I was probably wrong when I voted to keep it the same index for the super classes. I got caught up when they changed the rules in super street and raised the minimum weight from 2500 to 2800 and changed the starting line from .4 to .5. After they did that I never raced super street again, I know I have picked up in power this last year and the really it was newer parts that have been refined over the years and CUBIC inches. It cost the same to build a 650 cubic inch motor compared to a 400 cubic inch motor. So why build a 350 motor that will go the index, when you can build a 555 for the same amount and then put throttle control on it, get a pager and the latest weather technology and have fun? I wonder what is the biggest cubic inch motor in Super gas is? How fast do you think this car would go all out? Why not allow nitrous oxide in the class? I hope NHRA figures out what, if anything they are going to do and post it, so I can figure out what I am going to do. I think they should go to a instant green lite and get rid or the prestage all together. No minimum weight , let dragsters run in super gas, and move the super gas index to some round number. Boy I hope they spill the beans soon, so I can figure out what I am going to do. Nothing worse that spending money on things to get ready and they change the rules. Reminds me of the changes they made to super street.:o

Tom DePascale 01-02-2011 09:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr (Post 230931)
Hey Tommy,
Large for both you and Chris?
Need a shipping address.
Can send this week.


See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

my cell # 732-239-6490 call me.Tommy

CBS 01-02-2011 09:56 AM

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I have not heard what they are changing if anything.....the Scotty rule was the only thing that got voted down.....so I doubt you will see anything change.....

But you never kow....hopefully we will hear something soon.....

Rock Haas

Hey Wanker ....stop giving away my shirts....I all out...lol

Tom DePascale 01-02-2011 10:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CBS (Post 230955)
I have not heard what they are changing if anything.....the Scotty rule was the only thing that got voted down.....so I doubt you will see anything change.....

But you never kow....hopefully we will hear something soon.....

Rock Haas

Hey Wanker ....stop giving away my shirts....I all out...lol

Small price to pay for PROTECTION!!!!

Tom Joseph 01-02-2011 12:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom DePascale (Post 230956)
Small price to pay for PROTECTION!!!!

I'll give you a shirt big guy what size 3X?

Nitro Joe Jackson 01-02-2011 04:30 PM

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only change i would like to see besides banning timers (will always be against them)
Is to make 1 person in charge of the rules cause doing stuff like this, everybody is going to makes rules to fit their own agenda.

Thats why at Pacemakers SST deal, I make the rules and make sure my father (series sponsor) and Mike Fouts (track operator) agree with them (which they always do, lol)
And thats how it is.

Maverick 01-02-2011 07:45 PM

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Joe, you are right, but really you can't do that because it sounds too simple, and I don't believe that the people who use them would support the class if they did.

Tom DePascale 01-02-2011 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joseph (Post 230977)
I'll give you a shirt big guy what size 3X?

Hey Tom if the 3X means 3 shirts I'm in!Happy Holidays Tom see you in Florida? Big Guy.

CBS 01-03-2011 02:12 PM

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3x.....extra short?

CBS 01-03-2011 02:14 PM

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Joe.....do you have it in you to take on the rules.....I'm not sure you're old enough......lol
to fit in....

Nitro Joe Jackson 01-03-2011 03:50 PM

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remember we (my parents & myself) was running Pro Gas and the start of Super Gas when a good % of you was in the sand box, lol
Old enough, haha, I turn 50 in April, just a pup i guess, lol

CBS 01-03-2011 05:12 PM

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Joe,

We are all happy you have some left in the tank....lol

All of us super class racers may not be familiar with Joe's tireless efforts to keep our sport headed in the right direction.....

Please support him so he can continue to keep our stats.....and put on races...

I look at his stat book all the time....its the bible in super stock....lol

He's all right even if he doesn't like timers....lol

Tom DePascale 01-03-2011 08:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cbs (Post 231176)
3x.....extra short?

ouch !!!!!

CBS 01-03-2011 09:03 PM

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Sorry Tommy........I couldn't help it.......lol

Tom DePascale 01-04-2011 07:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CBS (Post 231235)
Sorry Tommy........I couldn't help it.......lol

Rock,my wife always love means you never have to say your sorry! SO THAT COMING FROM YOU I ACCEPT YOUR APPOLOGY!!!So where are my shirts ? 3T(toddler) will be ok after they shrink I send them to CBS Jr.they will fit him then!!!!!

Chuck Westcott 01-04-2011 08:07 PM

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Hey TD, What are you whining about now ! I'll bring some t-shirts down for ya !
Happy Holidays - Glad it's over - Racing in 6 weeks !

Tom DePascale 01-04-2011 08:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Westcott (Post 231369)
Hey TD, What are you whining about now ! I'll bring some t-shirts down for ya !
Happy Holidays - Glad it's over - Racing in 6 weeks !

Hey Chuck save them in case I decide to start a fire again!Happy Holidays save me a spot in Bradenton just in case I decide to fix carb.!!!!!

CBS jr 01-05-2011 12:12 AM

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Tommy D... my son said he has a couple of youth large shirts for you. lol

Tom Joseph 01-05-2011 10:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom DePascale (Post 231068)
Hey Tom if the 3X means 3 shirts I'm in!Happy Holidays Tom see you in Florida? Big Guy.

Just kiddn we do have "Junior" sizes. I'll bring it to Bradenton


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