Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Lets wait and see if he admits it.....LOL. It was a dual article in Car Craft I believe about his low buck program and the Hiner & Miller bucks up program. He even flat towed while the other team had a professional car hauler. If its the same guy he did win at least one of the AHRA races and tried to turn pro. AHRA had GT-1, GT-2, and GT-3 I believe which were heads up flat out racing classes. This was when Pro Stock was just getting off the ground in 1970 with NHRA. If its not the same guy then forget the previous post. I couldnt find the magazine to verify my brain. Again....Im old.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

My dad loved that Mail Call show of his. I remember one episode where he was discussing the factored HP versus the actual HP of an M1 tank. Good stuff. :)


-Toby

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

You left out the car and tow truck were financed by the credit union. Not like people today, who think you have to have money to race - LOL

Yea those were the days Mr Bardahl, Sox and Martin, Golden Comandos all had GT3 cars.

It felt really good to beat Gary Kimble in the final round at the Finals - in Phoenix at Beeline.

Ah the good old days when I was young, reckless and irrisponsible. Oh what I am saying I may still be the same way. No house to mortgage - I alreaday spent that over the last ten years.

I just do not know why the guys on here can not keep it civil.

I like the intelectual entertainment but not when they run out of literate comments and stoop to running their mounth and resort to name calling or impuning you IQ.

I dare say I would match mine with anyone of them in a test today.

I may not be as good as I once was but I am as good once as I ever was


:-) peace

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

an IQ test? sure, how many bulbs head start do you want?

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

I have the article

Turns out I won the first two National Events and was runner up at the next two. Also won the championship run off a Beeline at the end of the year because I tied Gary Kimble in points. Back then the tie breaker was race for it.

The jist of the article was how could I have done so much with so little against so much money.

Lots of the Pro Stock teams had three other cars and used the same drivers in one of the three.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane

By the way I am borrowing the money for the Drag Pak

Hope I live long enough to pay it off. If not what's new - LOL

I am going to go out in a blaze of glory

:-) peace

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Oh boy, this **** is gonna start getting real deep anytime now.......................

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

What came first ,the chicken or the egg?

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Chad I am in such control

You can't stop

I willl give you 40 points

:-) peace

What I like is I am the topic of this thread and induce nothing but negative comments

You really do not get it - I find that hard to believe

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

if you give me 40 points, the chart doesn't read that high.

oh and I do get it. you've drug me down to your level and are beating me with experience

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Ron, I am starting to worry about you. Are you keeping up on your meds??

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OK I will admit it

You got me on that one

Come on don't hold back - I think more should join in

I love this position of power

But after this crappy football game is over I am going to bed

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Hey Charlie how are you

Yes or I mean no meds except for what is needed to prolong life

I am just bored and this is really cheap entertainment

I hope Chad gets that

We need to charge all of the sideline viewers who are staying up just to see what is next

:-) peace

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

late? Ron, its not even 8 on your coast

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Is there a possibility of an FX style format for these cars in the future?

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Don't hold you're breath Jason.They're total lack of grasping the bad situation they've caused is really beyond belief.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Well I need to go to bed early these days.

Gives me more time to wake up every two hours - NLOL

Always tough to go back to sleep right away

Gives me more time to dream about the V10 and how I will afford to race it

Tonight I can worry about runing SS/DA at Pomona since they are not going to run stock


:-) peace

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Is there a possibility that Stock/Super Stock racers could form some sort of a "racers union" so to speak? Kinda like what baseball has with the players associaton...where you elect leaders to talk to the head of competition for the NHRA and negotiate?

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

If they did not do it this winter, odds are they have no intentions of doing it at all.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Right after we all go ice skating with Satan.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Why is it such an impossibility?

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Just this thread alone should answer that question for you!

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

My thoughts exactly

:-) peace

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

With that answer I'm going to assume the class racing community is divided on this issue and is only concerned with themselves instead of what's best for the future of Stock and Super Stock.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Some are.But realistally it's just a reflection of the society we live in.It used to be that when
a wrong was being done people would band together for the common good.The so called progression of man took care of that.
The organization can't come to a sensible solution to a simple problem,mainly because they caused it in the first place.What you're seeing here is the reaction by the members in general.Unfortunately there aren't enough racers who will vote with their refusal to
participate until the problem is rectified.
History 101.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

I wouldn't say that everyone is out for themselves. There are lots of different views as to what is best for Stock and Super Stock. Both classes have changed a lot since they were originated.

I'm sure that this will blow over just like everything else.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Yes those were fun days. I wasnt 100% sure if that was you but Congratulations on the AHRA wins and it took a lot of nerve to what you did back in the day. That was living life to the fullest !

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

I have to wonder why anybody would BUY one?

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Why in the hell would anyone want to sell a wally?!?! If I ever win one I'll be buried with it!!

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

The winds have been blowing for two years and counting. More to come for sure, so I would say this problem will not go away anytime soon.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

But they do

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

People collect everything....especially championship rings etc from the pro sports world....compared to them, the wallys are cheap.....

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

I'm looking forward to racing next year for the first time in 3 years. I don't mean to sound overly pious or anything, but having been away for so long, I'm just thankful to get the chance to travel and spend time with my kids at the track again and I look forward to seeing some old friends.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

It "Blows" but Im not sure if it will be OVER.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

My car is off of Santa's list, I'm just not going to spend any more money on my "Dead Horse".

We will have "Live From" reports from very different places.

For those keeping score we drove 2386 miles one way to lose to Cour heads up fourth round in Seattle. On the way back we stoped at Denver to lose to Hagburg's "Paper Car" Nascar Hemi in the class final.

Yes I have an old dog in the hunt!!!!

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

you can buy walleys. geeeze and ive been spending all this money for years trying to win one. all i can say is i hope my wife dont see this she will have me comitted for mental evaluation

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

I guess I have had it wrong for all these years. I always thought that the goal in this sport was to win on Sunday, collect the big trophy, the big purse and the decal money at $300 a copy. Getting a Rienhart interview appears to be fun also. Don't get me wrong, I can certainly respect the class win and the bragging rights........................... BUT............................... I think the BIG picture gets very lost on some of these threads.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

How can it "blow" for you?

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Larry got beat both times in eliminations not class.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

Where we differ is that you see these cars as a problem. The HP is way off, but gets closer every time one of these guys bombs the index. It really all depends on how long the factories want to participate and how many new combinations they throw out.

I am surprised that nobody has pointed out the economic impact that these cars have had. It goes much deeper than just the car manufacturers.

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 

I guess I don't get it. What economic impact have they had other than the money Ford and Chrysler paid to NHRA. And we know where that money went.