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joe176 01-23-2011 10:08 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 234488)
Oh and a few other things. In the last three years they have doubled the price on chassis certification, raised the price on membership and liscenses, and raised entry fees, all in the worst economy in my lifetime.
I agree 100% Greg..not the right thing to do !!!!!

Greg Hill 01-23-2011 10:22 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Curcio (Post 235097)
There is no way this can ever turn out well for racers if the IRS rules that NHRA is not eligible to be a non-profit.

At best, NHRA would be forced to begin paying tax on funds from operations, which will increase costs by 35%, and those costs will be passed along to YOU. How is that good?

And that's only a best-case scenario. The IRS can impute back taxes for as far back as the statute of limitations allows, which could be 7 or even 10 years in some cases. Plus penalties and interest. The organization would either have to shut down, sell out, or seek new capital from a public offering, if the market will support it. None of these are good choices.

A publicly traded entity must, by law, maximize profit for its shareholders, or face lawsuits. The hard truth is that the national events generate piles of cash from spectator and sponsor revenue. The back-gate from sportsman racing is a small fraction of the total.

A for-profit NHRA may have no choice but reduce or eliminate sportsman racing. Not because it loses money, but because the resources can be used more profitably on professional categories. This would certainly be the case if it was owned by a publicly traded corporation.

Some of you think a sportsman-only, combo-racing organization would be preferable. But I can tell you without fear of contradiction that the quality race tracks that were built in the 1990's could never have been funded if they didn't have the prospect of a cash producing NHRA national event to show the bankers and investors. And say goodbye to sponsorships that underwrite some of the pro-sportsman operations in full.

Worst of all, they might have to close down. And to shut it down would be absolutely criminal. Garlits, Prudhomme, Muldowney, Jenkins, Sox, Nicholson- all NHRA legends- 50+ years of history and tradition could be lost, all because some cranky, short-sighted individual thinks Dallas Gardner and Tom Compton make too much money. You'll wish that was your biggest problem.
No one knows how this will turn out and I can assure you there are other things that could happen than what you outlined. How about maybe we end up with our voting rights back.
Then the members can elect a board who can hire management who will run the organization in a responsible and fair way.

RJ Sledge 01-23-2011 10:41 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Long time ago my Daddy ask me if I knew the difference between "a pig and a hog", being about 5 years old I had no clue. He then defined the difference to me,....."a pig gets fat......and a hog gets slaughtered" was his answer. If you think about it, that is just what happened with the higher ups at NHRA and I believe they are headed for the slaughter house door.

I hope that the innocent people that work hard everyday at NHRA do not suffer, but have very little compassion for the greedy ones.

There must be a better way to operate this organization than what we have been experiencing lately, I just hope that it not too late to do something about it.

Well said Greg Hill.

RJ

joe176 01-23-2011 10:54 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Curcio (Post 235097)
There is no way this can ever turn out well for racers if the IRS rules that NHRA is not eligible to be a non-profit.

At best, NHRA would be forced to begin paying tax on funds from operations, which will increase costs by 35%, and those costs will be passed along to YOU. How is that good?

And that's only a best-case scenario. The IRS can impute back taxes for as far back as the statute of limitations allows, which could be 7 or even 10 years in some cases. Plus penalties and interest. The organization would either have to shut down, sell out, or seek new capital from a public offering, if the market will support it. None of these are good choices.

A publicly traded entity must, by law, maximize profit for its shareholders, or face lawsuits. The hard truth is that the national events generate piles of cash from spectator and sponsor revenue. The back-gate from sportsman racing is a small fraction of the total.

A for-profit NHRA may have no choice but reduce or eliminate sportsman racing. Not because it loses money, but because the resources can be used more profitably on professional categories. This would certainly be the case if it was owned by a publicly traded corporation.

Some of you think a sportsman-only, combo-racing organization would be preferable. But I can tell you without fear of contradiction that the quality race tracks that were built in the 1990's could never have been funded if they didn't have the prospect of a cash producing NHRA national event to show the bankers and investors. And say goodbye to sponsorships that underwrite some of the pro-sportsman operations in full.

Worst of all, they might have to close down. And to shut it down would be absolutely criminal. Garlits, Prudhomme, Muldowney, Jenkins, Sox, Nicholson- all NHRA legends- 50+ years of history and tradition could be lost, all because some cranky, short-sighted individual thinks Dallas Gardner and Tom Compton make too much money. You'll wish that was your biggest problem.
I'd rather put mufflers on my car and drive it to car shows than give my hard earned money to a bunch of crooks if thats what this ends up being !!!

Alan Roehrich 01-24-2011 01:15 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
I have to wonder why it is people are so convinced that sportsman racing cannot survive, and even thrive, without the pro circus. You know, to hear some people talk, you'd think that drag racing never even existed before the entire program was taken over by the multi million dollar chinese fire drill that is the professional circus freak show.

If nothing else, the marketing job NHRA has done on the average sportsman racer, selling him on the idea that he is nobody without the traveling pros, ranks right up there with Madoff, and the guys at Enron, you have to give them credit for that.

I mean, where would we be without some guy riding around shooting t-shirts into the stands with an air cannon, and getting people to run around in circles pouring sports drinks all over themselves until they get dizzy and puke? What would we do without that horrendous racket they call music blaring out of the speakers during all that down time, and the "announcer" screaming about the points standings? You know, maybe it would be completely impossible to actually race cars without all that added "mind numbing entertainment".

Ed Wright 01-24-2011 08:44 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
But, how many paying spectators would there be? Sadly, nobody pays to watch us. Look in the stands when the fuel cars are done. Heck, hardly any of them watch Pro Stock. Nobody watches the Alky cars either. Even fewer the index cars, which I understand. :-)

Alan Roehrich 01-24-2011 08:53 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 235145)
But, how many paying spectators would there be? Sadly, nobody pays to watch us. Look in the stands when the fuel cars are done. Heck, hardly any of them watch Pro Stock. Nobody watches the Alky cars either. Even fewer the index cars, which I understand. :-)
The question is: Why?

And the answer is: Because no one spends any money or time to promote us.

NHRA spends millions to promote Top Fuel and Funny Car. If they spent a million dollars to promote anything else, I'd be surprised.

Spectators do not buy tickets to see us because no one is selling tickets to see us.

The only marketing that caters to Stock and Super Stock is the marketing by companies that sell parts to us.

The most time NHRA has dedicated to us is when they've explained to us that "no one watches you because they are not smart enough to understand the classes". That's a Hell of a way to think and talk about your fans.

Well, maybe I wasn't being quite fair there. They've also spent plenty of time telling us that we "don't generate a profit", and that we "take up way too much time and space that would be better utilized by the pros".

And like I said, they've sold the racers on that very idea.

X-TECH MAN 01-24-2011 09:06 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 235145)
But, how many paying spectators would there be? Sadly, nobody pays to watch us. Look in the stands when the fuel cars are done. Heck, hardly any of them watch Pro Stock. Nobody watches the Alky cars either. Even fewer the index cars, which I understand. :-)
All I can say is we had a ton of spectators at the "US Class Nationals" about 10 years ago and there was not a single Pro car or circus act on the grounds. Sportsman racing will and can survive if the racers want to support it and its run and marketed correctly. You might find you can walk away with more round and win/runnner up money without having to wait 6 months for a company to send you decal money either with a true sportsman association and race event. You just wouldnt get the oppertunity to run in the Pro/Alky/Jet car oil/kerocine if thats what you would prefer.....LOL. The sky isnt falling yet. The NHRA isnt the only option on the block and without them holding the good tracks hostage such a venue could and would be run at the better tracks ! I never could understand the die hard NHRA mentality I guess. You guys must really like taking it up your shorts. If this offends you then Im sorry but some need to sit back and re think what your addicted to.

Tom Meyer 01-24-2011 09:16 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Look at PINKS they filled the stands , You know the difference between sex and rape, salemenship. Nhra has been raping us all these years, but keep selling it to us. We on this site wine all the the time but untill we do something it will never change. Tom

Alan Roehrich 01-24-2011 09:23 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 235149)
Look at PINKS they filled the stands , You know the difference between sex and rape, salemenship. Nhra has been raping us all these years, but keep selling it to us. We on this site wine all the the time but untill we do something it will never change. Tom
Tom,
Something is being done now. Whether or not it will work out in our favor remains to be seen. But even now, there are just as many people whining about something being done as there are supporting it.

The true test of it all will come IF things fall our way, and something is done about NHRA being taken from its members. Then we'll find out if people want to do something, see something done, or whine about it.

The question is, if it comes to pass that NHRA once again becomes a true membership run organization, how many people will step up to actually try to improve our situation, how many will support those who do, and how many will either complain, or do nothing at all.

Alan Roehrich 01-24-2011 09:31 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
I keep seeing people saying "the complaint was filed because someone thinks Tom Compton makes too much money".

That's a crock. Look, no one would give a damn if there were 10 people on the NHRA board of directors, each one making $1 million a year a piece, if NHRA were truly healthy, and being run properly, for the benefit of ALL of the membership.

Rick Bailey 01-24-2011 12:04 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Well said !

Greg Hill 01-24-2011 01:15 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
The way NHRA operates can be traced back to at least 1981 when they had an illegal vote and took our voting rights as members away. Prior to that time I think a case could be made that they operated in a manner that generally benefited the members. Once they got control with no accountability their primary goal was to maximize revenue. When Dallas Gardner took over it became even more so and when Compton arrived it really got into high gear. In 1987 when they became a 501-C6 non profit according to the by-laws they still had 4 classes of members. Right now according to Linda Louie, their in house lawyer, they are a California mutual benefit corporation with no members. The 501 C6 status was granted in part because the IRS thought they were a membership based organization and were operating in the interests of the members.

I don't think many if any of you think the management of NHRA is operating in the bests interests of it's members. This needs to change. As a non profit company their primary responsibility needs to be doing what's best for the members not what's best for them personally. Until we get our voting rights back I don't see any of this changing.

Rich Biebel 01-24-2011 02:02 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 235130)
I have to wonder why it is people are so convinced that sportsman racing cannot survive, and even thrive, without the pro circus. You know, to hear some people talk, you'd think that drag racing never even existed before the entire program was taken over by the multi million dollar chinese fire drill that is the professional circus freak show.

If nothing else, the marketing job NHRA has done on the average sportsman racer, selling him on the idea that he is nobody without the traveling pros, ranks right up there with Madoff, and the guys at Enron, you have to give them credit for that.

I mean, where would we be without some guy riding around shooting t-shirts into the stands with an air cannon, and getting people to run around in circles pouring sports drinks all over themselves until they get dizzy and puke? What would we do without that horrendous racket they call music blaring out of the speakers during all that down time, and the "announcer" screaming about the points standings? You know, maybe it would be completely impossible to actually race cars without all that added "mind numbing entertainment".
This is a very accurate post Alan......and I agree 100%

NHRA Drag Racing was started by Wally & Co in an effort to get young kids like myself off the streets and into an organized legitamite form of racing. I for one bought into it immediately in my youth as the street racing scene was not for me. It was more about who could sucker someone into an unfair race and steal whatever you agreed to race for. It also was dangerous and illegal..........

Todays drag racing is nothing more than a 3 ring Circus and I opted out of it a long time ago at the national level for that exact reason......


No matter what happens to NHRA it will never be right untill either we vote on the board of directors or it has racers or former racers running things with input directly from the various categories.


What exactly does Tom Compton do for his compensation package? As far as being a leader and the face of Drag Racing......he is neither to me. Has he been instrumental in the success of the organization?

My thumb goes down on him and his crew.......

Sean Kennedy 01-24-2011 03:41 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 235151)
I keep seeing people saying "the complaint was filed because someone thinks Tom Compton makes too much money".

That's a crock. Look, no one would give a damn if there were 10 people on the NHRA board of directors, each one making $1 million a year a piece, if NHRA were truly healthy, and being run properly, for the benefit of ALL of the membership.
Completely agree, also with your previous post stating class racing could thrive. I tend to agree with this line of thinking.

Unfortunately, a big chunk of the guys you are trying to tell this to don't even unload their cars unless it's for an NHRA divisional or national event. These guys aren't going to hear anything but the sky is falling. Hopefully, when and if this stuff ever hits the fan, they will see past their own noses and race somewhere else.

GarysZ24 01-24-2011 08:33 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Sean,

You and all others who think like you are the reason I was happy and honored to be at the S.I.R. racer meeting/banquet last Saturday (in Tucson, because there racers have a chance to embrace a new option for their sanctioning dollar. If it happens, then NHRA is going to have some competition they haven't had out west here since the old AHRA days, and that will bring about some more focus on us sportsman class racers than we've been getting lately (especially if other tracks follow S.I.R.'s possible lead)? One can only hope.....

Toby Lang 01-24-2011 08:42 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 235147)
They've also spent plenty of time telling us that we "don't generate a profit", and that we "take up way too much time and space that would be better utilized by the pros".

I'd be interested to know who told you this. I doubt anybody with any real authority has said this. Or is this just what you think they think? I know I haven't heard this from anybody with NHRA. If it were true, why haven't they done away with us already?

Ever since I've been reading internet drag racing forums (1995 Compuserve) people have been saying the same thing: That NHRA is going to do away with the sportsman classes, especially Stock and Super Stock. They don't need us. They could save money by not hiring as many tech officials. No tech. No teardowns etc...

The fact is, when I went to the Jegs all-stars race in 1998 and 2002 Graham Light spoke at the racer's banquet. He said you may have heard rumors that we are going to do away with the sportsman classes. He assured us that was not true and the sportsman classes are a very important part of their program.

Well, guess what? It's 10-15 years later and the sportsman classes are still here.


-Toby

A100 01-24-2011 08:55 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
How can Scooter influence NHRA S/SS racing from SEMA but can't make it onto the NHRA board of directors?

“Comp Cams has been a strong supporter of Sportsman racing since the early ’70s,” said Scooter Brothers, chairman-elect, SEMA board of directors, and president, Comp Cams. “Class racing was very different than it is today, and contingency support of class racing was on track to diminish to the point of extinction."

Ed Wright 01-24-2011 09:29 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Not sure why Scooter would want on NHRA's board. His plate is probably full enough now. LOL
Way too many classes, too many with almost zero car counts (most there say "It's not my fault nobody else runs my class."). Why is there a class almost nobody runs? Guys build for those classes for a reason. It ain't to race heads up. It's to avoid it. Asking mfgrs to put up money for them in hard times is just wrong. Shouldn't get paid for a single run anyway.

Lots of unhappy racers here. Might be good for IHRA's car counts.

I don't care much for costs going up, but I own a business so I know cost to operate are going up. You either eat them or pass them on. You have to look at which would hurt your bottom line the least.

Alan Roehrich 01-24-2011 09:59 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Toby, it wasn't that long ago, sometime around the last time all the fees went up, several members here were told by NHRA officials that Stock and Super Stock were not paying their own way, and NHRA was "subsidizing" us.

Now, maybe, if you apply some sort of political correctness filter to that, you get something out of it besides "we don't generate a profit", but as for most of us, we hear NHRA telling us we're not paying the bills.

Sean Kennedy 01-25-2011 12:25 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 235319)
Sean,

You and all others who think like you are the reason I was happy and honored to be at the S.I.R. racer meeting/banquet last Saturday (in Tucson, because there racers have a chance to embrace a new option for their sanctioning dollar. If it happens, then NHRA is going to have some competition they haven't had out west here since the old AHRA days, and that will bring about some more focus on us sportsman class racers than we've been getting lately (especially if other tracks follow S.I.R.'s possible lead)? One can only hope.....
I'm all for the IHRA, and I hope it goes well. We have a potential new track coming in the northwest and I really hope they look at the IHRA.

dart4forte 01-28-2011 09:03 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
So guys, I have a question. Does the NHRA have a board of directors and who sits on the board.?

Jim Wahl 01-28-2011 11:59 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dart4forte (Post 236412)
So guys, I have a question. Does the NHRA have a board of directors and who sits on the board.?
http://www.nhra.com/story/2010/12/9/...-of-directors/

dart4forte 01-29-2011 03:12 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Looks like a good ole boy operation. Looks like they may have some problems with the IRS. Doesn't look like a 501(C) organization to me

JRyan 01-29-2011 02:02 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
All you have to do is read the first sentence to know what a crock this whole deal is.

"Two new members have been elected to the NHRA Board of Directors, longtime NASCAR executive Ken Clapp and high-profile Los Angeles attorney Michael C. Cohen".

"Elected"?? By whom? Maybe selected would have been a better term to use. But "elected" makes it looks more like the MEMBERS actually voted on these two ad-ons. Kinda like a democracy. Kinda like what's required by their organizational by-laws. No, I think they were HIRED as "little Dutch Boy's" to put their fingers in the dike.

By the way, did any of you MEMBERS get to vote on these two? I didn't, but then I quit giving them my money three years ago.

Jerry

Lynn A McCarty 01-29-2011 02:21 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
I thought we uncovered several years ago on this forum that National Events was a for profit corp and that the points races and membership/Dragster was the only port nonprofit portion?

Sportsman racing rules and NMCA and other like type organizations are proving it. A good thing just cant be held down too long.

Too bad the US Class Nationals thing didnt last into multiple events per year. It must be a profitable venture or no one is going to do it. I was hoping Alex made tons of money so he would keep doing it. Profit is a requirement or NHRA wont exist so I hope they make tons of money. They must listen to their customers a bit more.

Many sportsmen racers are on the leading edge professional America not easily ignored or manipulated. I support NHRA making profit and hopefully reinvesting with a collaborative effort with sportsmen racers to further our sport. They have improved over the last few years, but we still have more to accomplish.

GarysZ24 01-31-2011 11:37 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Kennedy (Post 235398)
I'm all for the IHRA, and I hope it goes well. We have a potential new track coming in the northwest and I really hope they look at the IHRA.
Well Sean, since S.I.R.'s an official IHRA track as of tomorrow morning, I'll be looking forward to what happens next out here in our half of the country? The rumor mill stated that several other tracks (like the one you speak of), were waiting for SIR to decide how they were going to go, and now we all know. I hope this is just the beginning of many transitions from national to international, because then it won't really matter so much what becomes of this IRS mess NHRA is involved in. I now know of a former NHRA (only) racer who's glad he had an option last year, because he won nearly $20,000 in cash and prizes as a result of winning his "No Box" national championship back in Va.!!!

Greg Hill 02-01-2011 09:54 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
This thing is not going away. It is being picked by the mainstream media in a big way. Google NHRA and IRS and you will find out that the AP has picked this story up and it's all over the place. Some of the media outlets that are running the story are LA Times, San Jose Mercury, Amarillo Globe News, Indianapolis NBC affiliate, CNBC, San Diego Union Tribune, CBS Sports.com, Washington Times, Coos Bay World, ESPN.com,Charlotte Observer, Fox Sports.com, newser.com, Minneapolis-St.Paul Star Tribune, Forbes Magazine. How long will it be before some enterprising reporter really digs into this and finds out what the scoop is? This is really going to get interesting.

Greg Hill 02-01-2011 11:36 AM
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An update on more media outlets picking up this story.USA Today,Greensboro News, abc news.com, Miami Herald, WBAY, Greenbay, North County Times in San Diego, Marin Independent Jouirnal, Bangor Daily News, Bloomberg News, Fresno Bee, Press of Atlantic City, Dayton Daily News, Columbia Daily Tribune, World News.com, NBC Sports.com, Gettysburg Times.

NewHemi 02-01-2011 07:55 PM
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If they (the NHRA) think that the only way they can have enough expenses to balance revenue is by having management make $700K per year, obviously they are taking in WAY TOO MUCH MONEY, and PAYING people far more money than they are worth.

Therin lies the problem. You pay too much in 1995, and then pay more in 1996, and more each year on up to 2010 and they keep raising racer costs to cover their annual raises.

Maybe they are hoping Obama will try to give them a stimlus, or maybe someone else can give them an enema...

David
The New Hemi Guy

Bob Pagano 02-01-2011 08:56 PM
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I am for that, an "Enema Out The Door"

novassdude 02-01-2011 10:09 PM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
I love how their only response is we were granted tax exemption years ago. They seem to think that allows them to do anything they want and all is good because the IRS Ok’ed them in the 50’s. They are a far cry from what they were doing in the 50’s when they got the exemption.

bill dedman 02-03-2011 03:15 AM
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I have, for the last few years, hoped and prayed that "60 Minutes" would get wind of what goes on at NHRA and do an expose'.... Maybe with all this media attention, it could actually happen..

And, then I woke up....

BlueOval Ralph 02-03-2011 08:13 AM
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In any of the Tax returns has any picked up if NHRA is showing as Income or it value the Free Cars, Trucks, Trailers, Motorcycles, and any other products (radios & ect)? Next question is do they (NHRA) issue 1099 to the employess that have use of the vehicles (Cars & Trucks) ???????????????



Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 237172)
This thing is not going away. It is being picked by the mainstream media in a big way. Google NHRA and IRS and you will find out that the AP has picked this story up and it's all over the place. Some of the media outlets that are running the story are LA Times, San Jose Mercury, Amarillo Globe News, Indianapolis NBC affiliate, CNBC, San Diego Union Tribune, CBS Sports.com, Washington Times, Coos Bay World, ESPN.com,Charlotte Observer, Fox Sports.com, newser.com, Minneapolis-St.Paul Star Tribune, Forbes Magazine. How long will it be before some enterprising reporter really digs into this and finds out what the scoop is? This is really going to get interesting.

CycloneFE 02-03-2011 08:58 AM
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If NHRA is a "not for profit" Organization, then aren't the entry fees and enhancements tax deductable?

art leong 02-03-2011 09:04 AM
Re: The IRS and NHRA, you gotta see this.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CycloneFE (Post 237820)
If NHRA is a "not for profit" Organization, then aren't the entry fees and enhancements tax deductable?
LOL. nhra is definetly not a charitable organization.

Greg Hill 02-04-2011 07:03 PM
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Good article in the Las Vegas Journal Review by Jeff Wolf on this very subject. He calls for Gardner and Compton to resign and put the interests of racers ahead of their own financial interests.

FED 387 02-04-2011 07:15 PM
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Not really sure what will happen but it definately is not gonna go away if you read the news articles---But we shall see--Comp

Spencer 02-04-2011 07:21 PM
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Link:

http://www.lvrj.com/sports/force-hoo...115263129.html


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