Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

Joe, you can still get back on that turnip truck if you hurry. :)

"As far as you know" is a miniscule amount when it comes to drag racing.

Kaase is probably the single winningest engine builder in Pro Stock history of NHRA and IHRA ProStock together. Charlie could probably dominate ProStock within a few years just like he did with Hemi SuperStockers.

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Yeah , sure pal...............I'll join you on that "turnip truck". I wasn't going to come back on here and beat this dead horse , but since you pushed my button..............
Go back and check your facts. I already stated the IHRA is the AAA of major league drag racing. Kaase ( in the NHRA ) helped Dyno win in , what , 77?
Then along came Johnson , Reher- Morrison- Shepherd , Iaconio..........Glidden and the list goes on. Where's Kaase? I'm just telling it like it is.
AS I SAID EARLIER..........since the 500 inch rule , in the NHRA , there haven't been , other than Glidden , any engine builders engines in the winners circle wearing the blue oval.
http://competitionplus.com/drag-raci...ford-pro-stock
And this is in no way implying the Ford based Pro Stock engine is inferior in any way.
In fact........if and when the NHRAs Pro Stock teams ever ran the IHRA circuit the IHRA teams had their asses handed to them.

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

Well, if it's true dial in racing saved sportsman racing, then the fix is simple. Pro Stock's new rule. Any car that can run 7.00 or quicker gets in. Can not dial slower then 7.00. You go too fast, you lose. There. I fixed the money problem, valve spring problem, and RPM problem with a dollar bottle of shoe polish. Will work for Top Fuel, and FC also. They should pay me for my brilliance.

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Ive known jon kasse for over thirty years.he built our first 351c in 1981. Where was jon in the early to mid 80s? He was just starting out on his own and got married and had a young family. Jon told me it was either late 1983 or 1984 bob glidden asked jon to move to indiana to join his effort. Jon told me he went to visit bob but he just did not want to move to indiana. He liked the climate better in ga.and besides hes from cleveland ohio so do ya blame him?jon is as good a n engine builder as anybody in the country. How many engine masters has he won? Its not just big block fords jon can build anything. Ill never forget when jon helped ernie elliott on the cylinder heads / manifold prior to the 1987 daytona 500. The track record was 205.00.something like that. I called jon and asked what the pole speed would be. Jon told me bill would go 210.00. The pole speed was 210.366!!!!!!!! Of couse it was a small block ford.:)

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Al Parker says Jon Kasse is one of the best engine builders in the world. That's all I got.

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Im sure whatever you state is true:rolleyes: If the IHRA,Jon Kaase etc is AAA then what does that make you and the rest of us? Im sure you can call Brian Gahm,Chris Holbrook,John Montecalvo,the Goforths,Jon Kaase,Gene Fulton,Sonny Leonard and any other person who ever ran an IHRA event busch league:rolleyes: but what does that make the rest of us? If the Mountain motor guys struggled against NHRA guys running 500 ci rules maybe its the fact that they are totally different animals and the fact that you call a faster version of the class a minor league confuses me? the IHRA Pro Stockers run low 6s and the NHRA cars have been stuck in the 40 or 50s for a few years. Im curius how much have you won to call anybody AAA and decide just how great somebodys racing effort and talent are?

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That is a BIG statement ! I hope the guy does but i wouldn't be putting any bets on him at the moment, don't forget 500cid Pro Stock is the hardest class to run ( especially in a FORD) i do wish CW all the luck in the world because he has the balls to run a Ford. regards from a Ford fan :D

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Do you have to be born with Pro Stock stamped on your forehead to run that class?

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Congratulations. This is a world championship hijack. No masks, no firearms just the power of the keyboard. Good luck to Larry Morgan.

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I think Joe was referring to current day prestige of NHRA Pro Stock vs. IHRA Pro Stock. As of right now, I think we could say NHRA PS has a little more prestige. The fact that Mountain Motor Pro Stock Group is split in half between PDRA and IHRA doesn't help as well.

Side Note, Mountain Motor Pro Stock vs. NHRA Pro Stock on a staggered tree would be fun to watch. Wonder if something like that could last.

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Once upon a time , the NHRA's heavy hitters played in the IHRAs playground:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2rtzwBiVYU
.........and when they did , the results were predictable.
The "preeminent" engine builders in Pro Stock were in the NHRA , its that simple.............:rolleyes:.
Here , another for the doubters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIgeoSe2c1E

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NHRA PS in todays world is nothing more than a million dollar cookie cutter class made for GM and is really boring for anybody but a bowtie fan............I dont have much interest in watching queen Erica race the Summit guys and I dont see a whole lot of talent in todays 500 inch class honestly a bunch of guys who buy mid pack power just to be in the club. The only hurdles I see are the Johnsons and the Summit guys and the rest come and go with $$$$ changing hands year to year just trying to run the same race to get the best crew guys to race theyre cars for them now Charlie could change my tune on how exciting the class is! If you like the Super Chevy Show its good but if you could care less about 15 camaros and 2 or 3 Dodges racing each other its dull and boring

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I couldn't agree more.The "wave of the future ' is Pro Mod.
I used to love Pro Stock....but that was years ago.
No one cares about Pro Stock any more.........the exception being the guys who have them.
Wescott , do yourself a favor and make the transition to Pro Mod . I read in one of your "short and blunt" interviews that only rich guys are in the Hemi club. And only those guys really get it.....most casual fans don't. Same with Pro Stock.
And for all those who want to kick me in the nuts for saying that.....save it , I don't want to hear / read it. You have your opinions , I have mine.
This is the internet.......feel free to express yourself.

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If you were acquainted with the guys running those cars, you would not see it that way. Take the guys that bought my long time friend Mike Edwards operation. Top qualifier car, and even with all their money, they can't hit their butts with it. Many of us, that know what it takes to compete there, find that deal pretty humorous.

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Im sorry im just not acqainted with those guys your right they are waaaay out of my league and always a Mike Edwards fan even though he ran GM products but I always liked the fact he was a Ford racer in MP and I like NHRA PS or want to like it I just need some competitive Blue Oval guys in the field and anyways I wish CW the best of luck with his WARHORSE and hopefully he can make us proud!

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Those engines don't know what it says on the valve cover. They are just dumb Iron. They all like the same things. If Ford has some equal cylinder heads, they will be just as fast as GM or MOPAR. Wescott has as good a chance as anybody new. Hope he doesn't like things like free time for family, etc. LOL
Mike spent enough renting Tulsa Raceway Park for testing over the years, he should have just bought the place. V. Gains and Greg Stanfield were here testing along with Mike on what seemed like almost a weekly basis. A couple others were there a lot too.
His crew guys were always about burned out by the end of the season. People don't realize how hard those guys work. And the parts and money they go through. Has to be a bunch of masocist. <SP?> LOL
To people that are really into making NA hp, it's the ultimate. Not everybody cares about nitrous, turbos, or blowers used in the pro mod, top sportsman, etc, wall banging track oilers.

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I remember a few years ago reading about Jason Line working from 6am to midnight weeks on end to get them back to the front. These guys are tireless workers. I still remember the interview with Kurt Johnson when he said "I don't get to go jet skiing on the weekend I'm in the dyno room"

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"Heads up" guys , ( as in first to the finish ) more than most , are driven by their ego's.
Yeah , its cool that guys like them exist , but at what price? Frankly , I dont see how any of them stay married.
The guys that really have it made are the ones who just drive ( read that Coughlin and so on ) .
Does anyone know what the Wescotts real business is?
Obviously the money came from somewhere..........JC.

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

Ed is 200% correct ! i really wish CW all the luck in world hope to see him top qualify one day, you never know he may be leasing his engines one day if he can make big steam from them. regards FORD fan.:)

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Your questions seem to imply some sort of jealousy.
Racers stay married because their spouses are as dedicated to the sport as they are and many make it a family affair.

By the way, there are racers that in addition to driving, they also work on the car, not just driving.

As regards to the Wescott family financial affairs, unless they are asking you for money, I believe it is nobody's business.

The Wescott's are hard working and successful racers that have demonstrated many times they can make power and win races.

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x 6!!

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You my friend , can kiss my ***..............it was a simple question.
I really could care less.

I'm done...............

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buh-bye !!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

LOL! Sorry you got your panties all wadded up!

Condescending statements? I do not patronize anyone.

However, when you start talking about "Ego's", marriage issues due to racing and financial stability of racers, you are not only directing this to the Wescott family, but also to the integrity and principles of the Class Racer's community.

We all know and are aware of the time and financial costs of our madness.

Nevertheless, I don't see others asking how did they pay or how could they could afford buying a COPO, CobraJet or DP race car.

Also, when I go to the track, I see lots of racers having lots of fun and race interaction with their wife's, kids and relatives.

In a nutshell, I believe the initial questions were unwarranted.

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

Bye bye :D

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

:D:D:DI said I was done........I lied:D
In the context of this thread , of which all my replies are.......I asked the question about Wescott , not that it matters , honestly , I could care less........but since he came UP and has more than his share of "nutswingers".........and I had seen nothing of an engine building business , which prompted the simple question ........what does this guy do for a living , as I can't imagine drag racing pays the bills.....and there's no indication that he has an engine business..........which brought the question and exactly the kind of replies I anticipated. You guys are too easy and predictable.....Geezus , lighten up.
.........ask me what I do for a living , I'd be happy to tell.........big deal.

I

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

I disagree, at least in the group I run around with do not have egos at all. We love the competition and love searching for HP and ET. In my circle these guys and their family's would give you the shirt off their back and help you with any problem you may have.
There are some with large egos yes. But there are some people like that everywhere you go.
My wife supports me racing whole heartedly. We have a budget as to what we spend on racing and we stick to it.
How anyone makes or spend their money is no one buisness but their own.

I like Larry Morgan, I'm pulling for CW and I'm a big Pro-Stock fan.

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I think many guys who appreciate Stock & S/S racing like Pro Stock because its a 500 cube max with no power adders, so its a real thinkers and thrashers class. Classes like Pro Mod are unlimited, so a 900 cube engine with 4 stages of nitrous, or big blowers or turbos, and often silly looking bodys and paint jobs may wow the kids and non car people, but personally I think its more like a monster truck /sideshow act, with not very many close side by side runs. JMO

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They do build engines for several Stock and Super Stock cars. Hemi's, Chevy and they have done some Cobra Jet Modular Fords.

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

surprise suprise.......... :-(

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

Well.......whatever "they" do , its none of my business:D
Anyway , credit goes to me for running up the post count .;)

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"They" would be Charlie and his father Charlie Sr. Been around for a while. Little surprised that they are an unknown for someone posting on this forum.

http://hemimilitia.com/Index.html

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Thanks..........for being decent enough to provide that.
Unlike some of the others.:confused:
I don't follow the Hemi shootout but after the post about Wescott trying Pro Stock , it picked my curiousity.
So naturally , I view'd You Tube for Hemi shootout videos.
Not a Hemi guy , but cool to watch..........retro-skinned Pro Stockers .

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

Joe, Hardly a retro-skinned Pro Stocker or even close but everyone I have seen since the 90's have been very refined Super Stockers with impeccable workmanship and fast and very expensive to run. The Wescotts and Bartons have spent years of research and development on these motors and parts massaged to max. Their performance is far more impressive to me than a Pro Stock car. JMT.

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

OK
Thanks and good night!
Feel free to talk amongst yourselves:D

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MIR had a race every year just be the Summer Nationals at Englishtown; where NHRA an IHRA pro stock could run each other for one night a year. it has been a while, so I can't remember the name of the race or the rules, but it was a big thing here on the east coast for a long time.

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I remember some IHRA big motor guys coming over to try NHRA. Not a one could hit their butts.

Re: Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock
 

Joe, to answer your question; I think they are in the drywall business. (Jackson Drywall)

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We don't care

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Yep, I remember that.