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http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/...ml?load_img=19

i guess that all of the stuff in this catalog should be legal in Stock.

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Just a guess.....the almost 50 year old iron manifold is getting hard to find. Resto crowd looking for them too.

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If you'll notice this $700 intake on eBay has a notch cut out of the divider,
I believe that is not legal for stock.
At least that is what Mark Lelchook said about the 1972 340 cast iron intake
I have with the same notch in the divider.

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This is an aftermarket manifold. All standards-rules-assumptions- considerations that apply to traditional replacement parts do not apply here. The notch in the divider was common to all Edelbrock manifolds of that era to allow the use of 3-barrel Holley carbs that were the hot lick of the day.

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Thanks Billy. I'll see if I can get the Racer Brown ST-14 cam specs approved for the 273 2bbl, and the STX-24 approved for the 273 4bbl combo. That should help a bunch.

It looks like there was a 700cfm Holley carb that was a replacement to go with the LD340. The 340 guys ought to get that added as well.

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The ST-14!specs are
236-486
Adv 266@18 thousandths
Lash is 16 in 18 ex cold
Iron head with 1.5 stock rocker ratio
I'll get you the st-24 & stx-24 specs tomorrow.
That Holley carb is approved. Look up d dart specs 😁

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I need to take out an insurance policy on my parts. :eek:

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Insurance policies on parts, engines, etc are available. I had one through K & K Insurance when I crashed, and they paid everything I claimed very promptly. Not so good on the motorhome. Allstate

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Ok this thing is 13 pages old and my attention span is only so long so when do we get to the part about who asked for this?

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hmmm, I looked at two 340 intakes, the 2100 and the 025 , they have no notches. the 2100, is for 71 and 72 340. just observation from the field.

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I don't think any of the factory SB Mopar intakes had a notch. Maybe the 2bbl intakes, but it's been a long time since I've seen one of those.

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I don't have a dog in this fight but I'll point out that no 340 four-barrel engine had an Edelbrock intake bolted on when it rolled off Chrysler's Mound Road Engine Plant in Detroit.

The Chrysler part number cast onto the runner was there for two reasons.

1. To make the manifold legal in Super Stock back in the day.

2. For sale through dealers during the Hustle Stuff (and later Direct Connection) parts programs.

Just pointing out factual history and not distorting it.

You know, like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor...

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And all those power glide only cars did not come out of the factory with a 3 speed, but they can run one now. What's the difference?

No difference it's all BS

Fast guys will still be fast intake or not. But that extra gear really changes the car.

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Correct. Powerglide-only cars should not be allowed to run a 3 speed, and 340 cars should not be able to run an intake that didn't come on them. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Moot point, I guess. I'm one of the few (apparently) that ever got fed up enough with NHRA to take my money elsewhere.

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as for this for only one car, chev guys whined and got the jerico trans ok'd for them, ford and mopar cars didn't need them. seems to be some hypocrisy. sounds like liberals, do as I say, not as I do???

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There are no 50s Mopars listed in the guide.

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While we're on the transmission deal maybe all of the 340 cars should go back to their 727 torqueflites too!

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I guess that you are an "Older Racer"???????

I wouldn't think that a top loader or hemi 4 speed would be in any of the faster Mopar or Ford Stockers???????

I could be wrong??????

They could run one if they wanted.....

I'm not sure how to make that manifold fit on a Chevy or Ford??????

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IS THIS STILL CLASS RACER??????

Seems like it's Kindercare now.... my lord.

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Bob quit yelling

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Yea, his sucker is bigger than mine, not fair.
The only racers this manifold will hurt are the 340 cars, once they start going faster here comes the HP increase, the rest of us got to catch up or join in unless they put the increase on the LD340 and leave the cast iron manifold like now. Parts are getting scarce for everybody after 50 years and as for the Jerico, the Ford and Chrysler trans didn't explode on the track like that "rock crusher" or Snagle tooth. And the three speed was a tremdous gain for the few small cube PG racers. And yes I'm older than dirt.

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OK........


but just remember that I am hard of hearing along with being hardheaded...

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So Billy, don't you know the 727 Small Block Mopar transmission is the best 904 they got. Bigger pump etc. By the way if you or any of your Chevy friends need a Turbo 350 with 904 insides, I have 3 to sell. Who woulda known. Maybe you should move to IHRA pure stock.

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..and GM cars can go back to their respectives T-350's and T-400's in lieu of the T-200's...:D

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I'm just fine with that! Let's get the C-6s back in the FFFFords too!
My powerglides are still working just fine and my stuff actually came with turbos.
Mr. Jeff, I could just about run IHRA Pure Stock with my stuff the way it is!

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I am good with it as long as they bring back the Edelbrock AMC R4B intake manifold amc part # AM4485729 this got yanked after approval so be ready to change it back !!

NO TAKE BACKS !!!!

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Just think, with that manifold you could have been first in the sevens with a real stocker.

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Ya so let's wait till a heads up final and get beat because he has played the average game very well and doesn't have to worry about 1.0 under run .
Are you new ? Lol or understand how the system works that still gives the advantages to having a fast car ...
There is now a good reason to have the rules in forced with Indy being a non AHFS race.
Just my 2 cents

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TH904. Lol

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So, nobody plays that game now?
Do you really think that intake is going to make them that much faster, like nitrous or something? Heck the stock intake is hogged out and acid ported to the hilt now, along with everybody else's. Even Chrysler said the stock intake was the best and the LD340 wasn't better, just lighter.

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Michael Beard
There are a few that have had enough and found something else to do.

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Michael, you're my hero! I'm just having a terrible time dropping the needle.

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don't forget the quickfuel carbs;)

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I hear there's a big money race at the Beaver this summer... :rolleyes: :cool: See you there.

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I think it would take a trailer load of beer just to list what everyone thinks should be eliminated from a different brand competitors combo, and maybe two more loads to get it typed, not counting the three loads it would take to get all the explanations from all the folks why their competitor should get hit and not them. Now, that is 6 trailer loads of beer. I can tell you that is a lot of beer. After Katrina, one of our major customers is a beer distributor and the fleet went under, all loaded. 9 truck loads of beer. It was given to us provided we didn't sell it. We tried, we drank, the bottle caps rusted, but pliers fixed most of them, we kept trying. The cans started leaking, we drank it faster, and we did not get close. But nobody died or turned a funny color. So who will buy the first 100 cases. I think Billy, since he started this. What ya'll think?

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Ya know Mr. Jeff, that's an awful lot of beer. And where there's an awful lot of beer there's an awful lot of pi*s. I don't like people pi*sing on my shoes and telling me it's raining!
You seem to be the Mopar guy that knows where all of this got started. Find the guy that started it and get him to buy the first 100 cases of beer. I'm not a beer drinker any way. I thought it was common knowledge that I'm a Tequila drinker.
But that being said, I'll take you and your crew out for dinner and drinks any time!
I'm sipping my first 3 fingers while I'm typing this, OBTW.