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1320racer 02-14-2019 01:51 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
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Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 582421)
1320, no question that you should be proud of what you and your son have accomplished, but I don’t think it fits in the conversation. When you start entering stock or superstock, it might feel a bit different.

that's your opinion and I couldn't disagree more. We are NHRA Class/Sportsman racers just as you are. We pay our money at the gate just as you do, compete at the same facilities just as you do and compete for the same prize just as you do.

Hacksaw 02-14-2019 02:31 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Guys, give it up Ed works for NHRA, east cost division. LOL

1320racer 02-14-2019 03:03 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
They couldn't afford me.:p

B Parker 02-14-2019 03:14 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Ed for personal reasons I have not raced much in the last 15 years. And I'm not that old. Started at a young age. You seem to like to attack old men. Did someone older abuse you? If they did I'm sorry and I would suggest you seek help. As much as you bring it up it seems to be really bothering you. Try and give the old man thing a rest and see how it works out for you. I thinks it's great your happy racing the way you do. I'm not attacking you personally. Congrats to you and your son. But not everyone thinks the way you do. You asked me to list things I thought were wrong. I did. But instead of addressing the issues I brought up you attack me personally. I really didn't expect anything different from you. It's been your MO since you showed up on this board. You don't race Stock or Super Stock so I don't know why you even want to be part of this conversation. If you think your car is the same as ours. Than I would say it could be. Just look up what comp class it fits and have at it. Good luck this year! BP

1320racer 02-14-2019 04:36 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
the dialog here and the other threads isn't about stock/super, it's an attack on the NHRA Sportsman Racing series. Further, you really think anyone at the NHRA or Lucas cares what someone thinks that for all intents and purposes is NOT a sportsman racer.

I stand my observations and comments, complaints from a few old men that no longer have the $ and/or skills to compete, some of which haven't raced in many years.

Billy Nees 02-14-2019 05:17 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 582481)
the dialog here and the other threads isn't about stock/super, it's an attack on the NHRA Sportsman Racing series. Further, you really think anyone at the NHRA or Lucas cares what someone thinks that for all intents and purposes is NOT a sportsman racer.

I stand my observations and comments, complaints from a few old men that no longer have the $ and/or skills to compete, some of which haven't raced in many years.

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1320racer 02-14-2019 06:47 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
I’m driving so I’ll be short, Safety first.

Billy, I didn’t attack you or anyone else, I didn’t call you a hillbilly who’s dime box builds are ****boxes nor did I highlight that you have been racing forever and haven’t really done anything. No, I mearly stated my opinion and I stand by it regardless of who here disagrees.

As to the Copo, the difference between you hand me is I have the $130k to buy it, the reason I didn’t is because my son wasn’t interested in running stock eliminator and neither am I. If I was, would have done it long ago with my former Chevelle.

That said, this is Ken’s forum not yours, I trust him to decide if my comments and responses to some personal jabs toward me are out of line

Tony Fagnilli 02-14-2019 06:48 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
This is better than anything I've read on Yellowbullet. LOL

MR DERBY CITY 02-14-2019 07:01 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 582485)
Alright Ed, that's far enough! In case you didn't notice, the section of this web site that you are posting on is entitled "Class Racer Forum Stock and Super Stock". If you don't like what we (S/SS Racers) have to say about the state of our eliminator then don't post here. Go post on the S/C Forum! Mr. Parker is a very talented individual who I'm quite sure isn't hurting for money. You, on the other hand (IMHO) are a no-talent wanna-be who paid out a bunch of monies over the years to play with a poor excuse for a bracket car that went pretty fast and did wheelies but didn't do much winning! I'm very happy for the success that your son has had in S/C and I wish him continued success and you should be very proud. But you have NO RIGHT WHAT-SO-EVER to comment on how much "$ and/or skills to compete Mr. Parker or me or anyone else on this forum have or had!
And OBTW, I could have had a COPO too. Why didn't you pick yours up? Need some money? No talent to run it? If I had picked mine up, it would have sat in my garage with my other Camaros that I won't race so why should I have it?

I second the motion that 1320 ED run along and go play on the 90’s forum
All in favor........

1320racer 02-14-2019 07:12 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Oh and billy while we are being honest here, you are not “very happy for the success that your son has had in S/C and I wish him continued success” if you really felt that way, you had ample opportunity to tell him yourself in person as well on this forum but you didn’t along with a few others that post here.

J.R. Haddad 02-14-2019 07:22 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Ed, I am not going to enter this battle of nonsense, but I am going to
tell you that Barry Parker is a very intelligent, talented, Class Racer.
I hope before I quit racing, which might be soon if I use your age
scale, that I know half of what he knows about building and running a
Stocker. Everyone of us that run S/SS hold him, Billy, and others
in very high regard. Not a popular place to try to insult either one.
Congrats to your son on his good season. Congrats to Barry & Billy
for being the people they are.


J.R. Haddad

MEXJOE 02-14-2019 07:33 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
I just looked at this from page 1 to this end and all I can say is
That is time I will never get back!"
Good day?

1320racer 02-14-2019 07:54 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R. Haddad (Post 582501)
I am going to
tell you that Barry Parker is a very intelligent, talented, Class Racer.

where did I say he wasn't but I still am waiting for him reply to this...

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 582388)
Please show me how the NHRA is crapping on me or you for that matter. I pay my entry fee and they provide me with a parking spot, tech/safety inspection in an attempt to keep all honest and safe, a race track that has been inspected and prepared, staff to keep the event organized and moving and finally and most important, a chance to win a Wally and prize money. Bonus is if I attend all my divisions events and accumulate more round wins than my competitors, I get a big Wally, a gold card and more $. So tell me again how the NHRA is crapping on me.


Billy Nees 02-14-2019 07:57 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 582493)
I’m driving so I’ll be short, Safety first.

Billy, I didn’t attack you or anyone else, I didn’t call you a hillbilly who’s dime box builds are ****boxes nor did I highlight that you have been racing forever and haven’t really done anything. No, I mearly stated my opinion and I stand by it regardless of who here disagrees.

As to the Copo, the difference between you hand me is I have the $130k to buy it, the reason I didn’t is because my son wasn’t interested in running stock eliminator and neither am I. If I was, would have done it long ago with my former Chevelle.

That said, this is Ken’s forum not yours, I trust him to decide if my comments and responses to some personal jabs toward me are out of line


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1320racer 02-14-2019 08:03 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
again Billy unlike YOU, I ain't attacked anyone and Ken hasn't contacted me so I haven't crossed any line either. Wounded egos don't count.

That said, I stated my opinion as well as facts about some that have posted here and the other threads.
More important, I don't see one top 10 driver in stock posting in any of these threads complaining about the NHRA, the alledged problems and questioning the health of sportsman racing.


So tell me Billy how far down this years Stock Eliminator points list do I need to go to find those posting here complaining. Top 20? top 30? top 100?, top 300? tell me.

kansas stocker 02-14-2019 08:50 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
I guess attack is different in NJ than it is in the mid-west. A good thing you don't drink coffee with my group. No need to respond as I am out of here.
Pete

MikeMoller 02-14-2019 09:19 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 582300)
Every weekend, thousands and thousands of people from old Racers to Carguys to admirers of different forms of art to Grandma and Grandpa with the Grandkids go out to hundreds and hundreds of local Car Shows and Cruises to look at cars just standing still. Any of these groups of people could easily be entertained at a Divisional Event! Why don't they come? Usually because they don't know that they exist.
Yes, they are missing out on the "best-kept secret in entertainment" if they are into Car Shows! IMHO, probably one of the best darned Car Shows you could pay to see. And the cars owners are using them for the reason that they were built! Not to mention they can tell you every nut and bolt in it.

Oh, I've got some pretty cool stuff and I don't like pissing away my money.
Yac, are you pissing away your money again?

At the last LODRS in Charlotte a few years ago, there were no adds for the race on radio or TV, not even the Charlotte track website. I called the track for ticket and schedule info, I was told the event was a 'track rental' and they had no info. How do you get people in the stands that way????

1320racer 02-14-2019 09:41 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Why is people in the stands important to you?

jmcarter 02-14-2019 10:03 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 582528)
Why is people in the stands important to you?

If the tracks can’t make money then there’s going to be more closing to become insurance lots, condominiums, you name it.

1320racer 02-14-2019 10:41 PM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
if the tracks can't make money, that's on them not the NHRA. With the exception of alcohol cars, what we do is of little interest to the general public and hasn't been for at least 3 decades.

Lenny5160 02-15-2019 12:17 AM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 582534)
if the tracks can't make money, that's on them not the NHRA. With the exception of alcohol cars, what we do is of little interest to the general public and hasn't been for at least 3 decades.

Agree that promotion is up to the tracks. They pay for the right to host a divisional event, and how they maximize profit (or not) is completely on them.

My experience has shown a pretty clear pattern in which the smaller tracks and towns really roll out the red carpet for racers and have more spectators. I assume they feel the need to do so because the track amenities themselves are not as attractive as others, and it is likely that track's largest event and best chance at good revenue.

The larger, corporate, national event tracks tend to treat a divisional like any other week on the schedule. I've heard about exceptions such as Norwalk.

Jeff Niceswanger 02-15-2019 12:32 AM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
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1320racer 02-15-2019 06:33 AM

Re: A subject for discussion on a winter's day.
 
Lenny5160 knows


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