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New York + New Jersey = 48,000
add Mich & Ill with their severe restrictions & anti-Trump governors = 62000

Median age of people died - 78

Number of old folks in states where COVID patients were sent to nursing homes - unknown

Number of people listed as COVID but actually died from something else (non-COVID flu, pneumonia, COPD, etc) - unknown

Number of people died in a motorcycle wreck listed as COVID - at least 1

The Point(s)?

The real number caused by COVID - With the cooked books, the hospitals listing COVID as the cause on everyone who died for a few months to get paid, the corruption killing thousands of old folks deemed expendable in certain states, lies, cheating - we'll never know

Take away the four states with anti-Trump governors and inflated numbers, take away people over 80, or take away the fake numbers and it looks like a normal flu season.

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Actually it is Ken's math.



Stan

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If I eat badly and get heart disease I only hurt myself. I cannot give someone else heart disease. If you go and get Covid you may or may not pass it on.


Stan

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$39k when a ventilator is used. 88% of people put on ventilators in NY died. The ventilator is now seen as often being harmful. But hey, 39k is 39k.

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If the politicians are genuinely concerned with saving lives, why have they not shut down big tobacco?? Responsible for 480,000 deaths, year after year after year...41,000 of those attributed to second hand smoke.

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How about we wait for the next few weeks or months for Texas and Florida with Trump governors numbers to come in?


Why no RNC in Jacksonville?



Stan

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Come on down we're still racing here in Texas.
https://www.xtremeracewaypark.com/#

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I have worked in the oil and gas industry for over 40 years, I worked for equinor oil for the last 3 years, oh yeah they use a lower case e, because capital letters are offensive, this is a Norwegian oil company. I retired 3 weeks ago, just couldn't take the mask rules that equinor implemented. I had 5 crews in the field and it gets hot in the Badlands in July, try making an oil field worker wear a mask in the middle of nowhere, I told them do what you want but I will not wear one, guess I was not a good example as a leader, well got called into a meeting for it, this was the day I have been waiting for, I am finacially secured and been looking at retiring. In the meeting was told I needed to inforce the mask, I told the Austin Texas management to pack sand I quit, and logged off the meeting, I was on my way back to Missouri in 3 hours and never looked back. I have friends in pretty much every state of the union, and talked to a lot of them after retiring, not one new someone who died of the Kung Flu, and one guy new someone that tested positive but was never hospitalized.
Just not buying into it. November 3rd it will fo away
Randy Wells
Wells Bros Racing
C/SA 5034

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Okay Stan and Paul, its obvious we don't agree. You believe the cdc as gospel and we should shut the country down no matter what it takes to get rid of this virus. Most Class Racer members don't think like you, my question is why are you here. Do you race? do you have anything constructive to add to this forum beside your diatribe?

I think you guys need to move on and find a forum that fits your belief and your agenda. The thread has gone on long enough. I can easily remove you if members get tired of you, they just have to say the word. Remember this is a community with mostly like minded members, its not a public forum where you can say what you wish. My advise to you is leave quietly, your not welcomed around here.

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I follow the WHO Covid tracker at work. In their own words "Any death that the patient is Covid positive is counted as a Covid death no matter what the real cause of death was". Soooooo, if you have terminal cancer and pass away, but were positive for Covid, you're a Covid death.

I'm sorry for those who lost loved ones, and it's very possible I lost my own brother to it, (died of blood clots in the lung after 3 weeks of respiratory issues) but having half the country go to work as essential workers and locking down the other half didn't do a whole lot. As stated before, how in the holy hell can bars and restaurants be spreading it and hundreds of thousands of protesters aren't?

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No one wins with the situation we are in, bottom line we can’t tank the entire country over this issue or we will have mayhem. We have to deal with it the best we can and keep things open, I 100% believe this is aimed to defeat trump and that is just my 2 cents, again my opinion only but one way or the other November 5th after the election I think it changes. I love this country and what we stand for but the way things are now I hate seeing any tax money I pay going to these dumb *** protestors. We will all end up paying for all the mess they leave and all they will offer is how we pay them to continue not to work, the free ride has to stop!!!

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Have they found a cure for AIDS Stan? How many have died from that? Are those who test positive required to quarantine till a vaccine is found? Is it mandatory they wear "masks"? Are the positive ones tracked?

Wouldn't be politically correct would it. Not to mention the constitutional aspects of personal freedoms endowed by our creator.

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I assume they have an interest or investment in drag racing or they wouldn't be here. I vote let them stay. Throwing people out because they disagree with you is what Democrats do. And besides, once presented with the irrefutable truth, maybe they'll come to their senses and vote for Trump. Perhaps Mr. Weiss will vote for a good man, like Col. Doug Mastriano, for Governor after the disaster of that dope Wolf.

Come to the light. Leave the darkness behind. The truth will set you free.

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Ken,
It is your site so you do what you think is best.

About 5 years ago I give Dwight Southerland some cylinder head flow information for his web site.



Stan

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Looking for the data of the destroyed or crushed lives from economic destruction ..? God Bless the forum and freedom of speech.

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Ken they should stay. These few guys have done nothing wrong. Their opinion is opposite of the majority. No profanity and no personal attacks that I have read. I wish they would answer questions that have been typed instead of going down another path.

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Ken,

10 year member here. Also a racer, not that it matters.

Please delete my account on this forum. I was under the impression this was a racing website, you know, about racing. I guess you’ve decided otherwise. Your website, your prerogative. I can watch clowns argue politics on TV.
Thanks.

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Are they funded, roomates or payed by Soros or the DNC? Wondering about the majority?

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Participation not required to view the forum. Likely this discussion gets moved to the lounge. Ken manages this forum very well IMHO..

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Well put Ken!

I for one = I am more than tired of these guys and their Political Agenda!

My interest is in Stock and Superstock racing and tech while
I am on this forum.

Plenty of other forums and Facebook for Politics!

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Way too many keyboard warriors and conspiracy theorists in todays age. It's quite pathetic really. No one cares about your political beliefs or ideas. Please keep the topics on racing, as this topic is on Bandimere. The fact is Bandimere is limited to a certain amount of people per event unless allowed to operate past that with approval through the health department. They haven't been technically shut down. It's quite clear Bandimere makes a huge percentage of their money on the larger events. Even if the county allowed Bandimere's total capacity to reach 25% I don't know if it'd still be financially feasible for them to operate. According to testimony their expenses are quite large and bracket racing on the weekends probably won't cover them.

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Things may have gotten out of hand with this thread, but it has affected us all. In most cases the entire country is not affected by one issue like this, not sure how else to frame this one, it’s just not that easy. We are all on edge and holding on, my intention was not for anyone on either side of the isle to leave the forum, what’s always been great about this country is we can openly discuss things, Alan I hope you reconsider. John

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Facebook, kept putting me in Facebook Jail, because I kept hurting peoples feelings so I deactivated my account, none of these guys have hurt my feelings, although I would like to see more racing and performance and less political post.

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I know you love to post,but I never hear a thing from you when your top Democrat leaders like James Clyburn and Nancy Pelosi call federal agents **** Gestapo and **** Storm Trooper that are doing their best to protect mine and your federal property in Portland OR from being burned to the ground.

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I told a friend of mine just today that he needed to make his Barracuda, that was a Super Stocker many years ago, back into a class car because of the family that I know of as class racers. And like a family all the members don't have to agree on every aspect of every day life but they are all family. Because I don't believe the same as you doesn't mean that we are not family. Isn't that why not everyone races a 1969 Camaro. How much does it really matter what you or I think about what is happening. The truth is it is all above our pay grades. I was taught that you stand up for what you believe right or wrong. Because what you believe is different from what I believe doesn't mean that you are more right or wrong that I am. To my class racer family I don't see how this division helps any of us race. 11B20/67A1F

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Bet you guy lost your s!#@ when all those thugs were marching with weapons

From a medical prospective, do not get involved in large gatherings, the chance of transmission is too great, I do not want to intubate you when you get the covid because you want go watch the drags.

Biden 2020 Hell yeah!

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Okay everyone its time to move the thread to the lounge. I will take the blame for letting this thread go this far as I encouraged members to voice there frustration and opinions. I should have known better and stayed neutral and followed the rules of Class Racer. This issue has affected so many people, but I think its a mistake for me to get involved. Everyone knows where I stand now, but I will not join in with my opinion anymore.

Alan, sorry you feel the need to leave, but we are not perfect. People feel strongly about whats going on, and its affecting us in every aspect of our lives. Please consider staying around, I will do my best to keep us on track.

I do apologize to all, and hope you all understand its not personal. Its just so frustrating and sad to see this great country being torn apart, and feeling helpless that I can not do anything about it.




Ken

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Let me answer a few question. No I don't have a race car anymore. No I don't race anymore. I came in here for the technical talk which has been very little as of late. I did in a QJet thread reconnect with HB2 which is great.

Google is your friend. Type Stan Weiss into the search bar. Half way down the first page should be "Images for stan weiss" 2 out of the 5 pictures are of me. One is from the last '90's shows me with a MOPAR Nations shirt from the early '90s.

Stan


I had posted this in an earlier thread.


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...9&d=1591587708

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Unfortunately the situation at Bandimere like way too many things I believe likely may be political. Wal Marts etc. have not suffered much..

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I joined Class Racer in 2005 in an attempt to keep current with Stock/Super Stock racing. My first taste of class racing was at a NHRA Division 1 points meet @ Niagara Drag Strip in Niagara Falls NY ~ 1970. My brother and I slept in his street car at the track so we could stay all weekend. I've followed Class racing off and on for 50 years. I do not own a race car and have not made a pass down a drag strip in a long time.


I never posted or implied Bandimere or any drag strip or any business for that matter should be forced to remain closed to do Covid19 ever. I did not realize members had to contribute to the forums to be a member in good standing. I will try and do better in that regard.


It is a fact that some in of my posts I pressed the snarky pedal to the floor. Again, I will try and do better in that regard. However, if I post an opinion in a thread and get blasted with personal attacks. I will respond in kind. Wouldn't you? Sometimes you have to punch back or you get punched out.


pS

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According to Comp Plus, Bandimere has been "allowed" to open under certain conditions.

"The restrictions Bandimere Speedway must adhere to are as follows:

1) Bandimere Speedway cannot host an event in excess of 175 attendees

2) Cannot host an activity that doesn’t allow 6 feet of social distancing among non-family members

3) Cannot hold an event that serves food under the state’s restaurant guidelines"

I don't know if I should be grateful or continue to be disgusted.

Maybe Speedy should have an ACAB* or BLM* protest for people who just happen to have race cars. He could have lots of people show up, the police would come, spectate and make sure no one was interfered with and the state and local officials would ignore the whole thing.

*All Cars Are Beautiful and *Big Loud Motors, but don't tell them that's what it stands for.

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Burn
Loot
Murder

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Just who do you think controls retarded corrupt to the core Joe Biden?

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It is a well know fact for years the local governments and many of the politicians have wanted to end the race track there.
This is just the best chance for the politicians to to control and run it out of business using the agencies to do their dirty work and call it to protect the public.
Not everyone understands how much the community benefits from the race track and how much revenue it brings into the area.
Just ask someone in Douglas WY what happened to their economy when they lost their Division race some years back. The local leaders in a way ran the race out of town and once it was gone the business leaders and local leaders asked for it back with a meeting with NHRA. They were told it was gone and would not be coming back.
I can see the same thing happening in Denver with the Bandimere track if it can not survive.
The local leaders and developers want houses instead of a race track.
They should be careful what they wish for as the race track generates much more dollars for the community than a housing development can ever do year after year.
A housing development is a short term generator of revenue during sales and construction then that bump is over. After that it is only tax revenue which fall far short of the revenue generated for all the local businesses by the race track year after year.
This is short term thinking which is the norm today with almost all politicians.
They only look at election to election and keeping their position of power or upgrading it to the next level.
Only the locals being vocal to those elected officials and providing the politicians with facts and figures can possibly turn this around to keep the track operating.
Maybe elect some racers to some of those positions, like any of us racers want the hassles, maybe some do.
It is all about politics and agenda in today's world.
Just My Take
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

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I've been saying for years that liberalism is the enemy of motorsports.
Do you need any more proof than what's happening this year?.
Shame on those racers (and fans) that support liberal politicians.



* edited a typo, and lost the "likes" Thanks anyway

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Too bad Cornpop didn't take care of business when he had the opportunity!

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All this is happening under the buffoons watch.

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You talking about the Democrat Virus? Ok then.

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That would be the 'Democratic' virus.

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Sure what ever you say cheater.