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Oh yeah, I remember that wonderful insurance Obamacare. I had my whole family, my wife and 4 kids on great insurance for 10 years prior with no issue and NO price increases. Along comes Obamacare! And my premium doubled that next month and then tripled the next month, then I get letter saying my insurance will be dropped in the next 30 days and I have to sign up for Obamacare or I will be fined if I don't within a certain time period. Go to do my taxes at the end of the year and low and behold I had to pay a fine. Biggest farce ever!!!




Bret Velde
2003 I/SA

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You hate it. And it's the only way I, and anyone else with a preexisting condition can purchase insurance. Sad huh? Funny, when you finally get to Medicare all these issues go away. Well, Obamacare fixed some of it, but not the pricing for the middle class.

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you must have been one of the lucky ones on your health insurance. before the aca was passed the average premium rise per year was 10 percent

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When the ACA was being designed, the original plan was to make the cutoff around 60-80 grand for the 100% subsidies. It's been 40 grand since inception as that's as high as the Democrats could get through congress. They have been trying ever since then to raise it to where the middle class is treated fair, but the Republicans call it socialized medicine so every time it is brought up its a nonstarter. They WANT people to hate it. If they would just raise the subsidy's to where its truly affordable for the average guy, most people would like it as much as Medicare.

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BE careful what you wish for. Canada's tax payer funded health care system is running into big problems. My wife works in the health care field and over the years many Canadians have come to her hospital to have procedures done because they didn't want to wait, and paid out of pocket. I would guess most Canadians like it, they just don't want to pay for it if they don't have to. I live in a border city, they shop here like crazy (food clothing, gas) because the cost of goods in their country because of taxes are so expensive. Where do they think the money to provide health care comes from?

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In my Canadian Border city, most go down for elective surgeries. Columbia Mall in Grand Forks has become a ghost town because the good deals offered are not as plentiful as they were, thus keeping Canadians at home. Hotel deals at par are gone too. This is my take and call me a socialist if you wish but I am happy for my Canadian Medicare and will pay my share of taxes to fund it. My spouse and I also enjoy a very comfortable Old Age with Guaranteed Income Supplement and Canada Pension Plan in addition to the funds I put away in my RRSP (your 401K). High taxes notwithstanding, I've made a comfortable living in my birth country and nearing retirement, I know I enjoy the fruits of my working life. My country will soon be providing Dentacare and is phasing in Pharmacare starting with the Diabetic meds I am taking. My sojourns to the states are now pretty well limited to the Brainerd National Event and my odd trip to Lambeau Field.

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I always make it a point to ask my Canadian friends about their healthcare system (compared to ours). I have ask a good many. The answer is always the same. "It's got it faults, but we sure don't want to trade ya" . That tells me all I want to know

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Same story here I still don?t have insurance, best price for me was ridiculous affordable care act? I guess someone has to pay for all the freeloading

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So, you're good with forcing others to pay for your problems?


Because everyone was forced into "obamacare", and we all got slammed with ludicrous health insurance premiums.So millions who make less than you do got their insurance premiums jacked up so that they lost their good health insurance because they can't afford it anymore. They lost their health insurance plan, and lost access to their doctor, despite being told "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor". They got lied to, and screwed out of what they had, so you could have what you wanted. And you're good with that?


You want 100% insurance subsidies? You think the government money is FREE? Every penny the government has, it stole from a tax payer, under duress and coercion. And if the government takes $1.00, about $0.22 actually gets spent on what it was supposedly stolen for, the government itself sucks up the other $0.78 feeding the fedzilla bureaucracy. Every single thing the government "subsidizes" ends up being 400% more expensive within 20 years.



Your voting got all of us into doubled fuel prices, 50% increases in beef, pork, and poultry, an average of 9% inflation, a drop in wage growth to below 4%, a near 100% increase in the required income to buy a home, a 150% increase in interest rates, war in Europe, war in the Middle East, and more than 10,000,000 more illegal aliens, many of whom turned out to be single men of military age, and terrorists. Let's not forget the massive increases in crime (yeah, major cities aren't reporting to the DoJ to hide their problems) and the flood of fentanyl across the boarder leading to a massive increase of deaths and hospitalizations due to overdoses. Oh, hey, here's another bonus, we have $5,000,000,000 more debt, since they decided to "forgive" student loans, mostly for people who make $300,000 a year. Hey, we're going green, too, we spent $5,000,000,000, and we got SEVEN, count them, SEVEN brand spanking new EV charging stations.We're saving money on the military, too. Recruiting isn't meeting the goals because no one wants to be in the woke drag queen battalion. We're already short on ships, they can't get them built, and even if they could, they can't crew them. Oh, and fuel went up $0.42 a gallon in the south east yesterday, in about two hours. And the strategic petroleum reserves are near empty. But hey, insurance companies are forced to cover pre-existing medical conditions.

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You on Medicare Alan? Anyone in your family on it? Because if you have a problem with this single payer system, you should be dead set against Medicare also. Medicare has one price for all. Sick, healthy, fat, skinny ...doesn't matter. You think people on Medicare should now have spit pricing? If before Obamacare someone in your family came down with the cancer bug and at renewal time was dropped, and then when they searched only to find out they were now uninsurable, you would at least of had a taste of what we went thru. Back then, medical expenses were a leading cause of bankruptcies. I just don't understand why a magic wand happens when you turn 65? You don't understand the 100 % subsidies. My personal insurance was 1200 a month. If my income would have been under 40 grand a year, I would have received something like a 70% subsidy, and my monthly payment would have been 400 a month. There is a point where it pays it all, but it's a poverty income. I don't remember the cut off.
And as far as someone else paying for others problems? Medicare has a similar system.
"For most beneficiaries, the government pays a substantial portion — about 75% — of the Part B premium, and the beneficiary pays the remaining 25%. If we determine you’re a higher-income beneficiary, you’ll pay a larger percentage of the total cost of Part B based on the income you normally report to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS)
And your opinion on the military I agree on. You forgot about obesity. The #1 problem for the military is struggling to find young people who can even come close to getting thru boot camp. And they just keep getting fatter. Look at a picture of Woodstock sometime and count the ones who are overweight. Back then, overweight ones were the exception, not the norm.

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Democrats voted to fine Americans for not having health insurance, now want to give it to illegal aliens for free.

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Nope, not on medicare. And I've had cancer for two years, so I know what medical care costs. And I have been paying rapidly increasing premiums ever since they "had to pass it to find out what is in it."



I understand subsidies perfectly. The government takes in an exorbitant amount of money, and pays back a pittance, after it soaks up most of the revenue to feed the bureaucracy. That's how subsidies work. We paid stupid high taxes, the government wastes most of it, and we get back practically nothing. While the government drives up the cost of everything, especially what it subsidizes. That absolutely includes healthcare.


There is absolutely nothing that the government cannot make less effective, less efficient, less desirable, and more expensive. Healthcare is a prime example.


The U.S. government must now spend most of its money on servicing its debt, chiefly, just trying to pay the interest on what it owes. Eventually, sooner than later, the tipping point will be reached, where it cannot even pay the interest. What do you think will happen to your subsidies when the government runs out of money.



You admire Canada? Really? You should look into their MAID initiative. Yeah, that system you wish for in Canada literally counsels people to allow the medical system end their life. "You can't get an appointment to see a doctor about your illness, but, if you're suffering too much, we can get you into a medically assisted suicide facility." That's exactly right, if you become more trouble and expense than they want to be bothered with, they'll literally tell you that you should go talk to a "health care professional" about ending your life.

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Yeah, well, the democrats need to count those 30,000,000 illegal aliens in the Census, so they can use them to gain seats in the house of representatives, and electoral votes. Especially where people are fleeing the democrat strongholds. And they're planning to import 140,000 "gazans", like they imported the Somalians, and the previous batch of "gazans". That's why you have Omar and Rashid in congress.And three more relatively reliable democrat states.

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LOL. There were apparently a lot of us. My premiums weren't going up like they are now, either.

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You don't get the point that without the ACA your cancer diagnosis would have gotten your coverage dropped Alan? Why do you think you still have insurance? You have insurance because it's the law. You criticize Obamacare and it's the only reason you are insurable. You're lucky you didn't get it before 2010 when insurance companies were in charge. You remember the lifetime maximums on healthcare coverage Alan? When you reached the "Max" they were done with ya. Remember those? There gone also. If any insurance company wants to be allowed to sell insurance thru the ACA, they must not have a 'cancel when you get severely sick" policy. Even when they are selling non-ACA policies. (It's a huge moneymaker as millions are on ACA now,) so most abide. And of course, the law now mandates allowing folks to insure their kids till they are 26. So kids still going to school and such can still be insured under their parents plans. And when did I make any commit about admiring Canada. I stated all the Canadians I spoke took think theirs's not perfect but want no part of trading for ours. That tells me they want to keep it.
Most people are not keen on this stuff, as they take it for granted. Try taking it away from them and see how well it goes over. 1/3 of the United States has a preexisting condition.

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With regards to military recruiting the Marine Corps has no such problems, even during the pandemic.

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Actually, no. My insurance would have remained in effect. My mother worked in insurance for decades, I'm pretty familiar with it.

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There are exceptions to most every rule. The Marine Corps is likely the least "woke" branch of the military.

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Actually, so did my wife. For decades also. And was an office manager for multiple physicians, for decades. Unless you were protected by being in a group plan with multiple members, you were screwed. And if you lost your job and tried to hire in with your preexisting condition, they could hire you but not offer their insurance. Sue went thru that many times trying to hire good help. Because they had thousands in their group, huge corporations absorbed people with preexisting conditions and sometime in that era HIPPA came along.

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Woke! really, the only awareness Marines know is to close with and destroy the enemy by fire and maneuver. The only color I saw in my 24 years was green!

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All I can say is I want a hit off of the Bong some of you are smoking!

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You remined me of some memories. The bummer of being Union President was the fear of being busted with illegals in your system. We had a 4 millibars tolerance in the drug policy. Didn't want that for myself, or the membership, so for 43 years I refrained. The day I retired I got a knock at the door. The entire neighborhood knew it was going to be my last day. Mike, my next-door neighbor and lead guitar player for one of the local bands is standing on my porch. Sue answers the door and says you have company, I look to see Mike saying. 'Your mine"!! Yep, the bong lit that evening. ...LOL

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Jeff for over 40 years in the refineries down here I have had to take random hair folical and random drug screens. Now that I have retired I plan on burning a couple myself..LOL

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Never mind

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None of what you said id true but please tell me about Trumps great Health Care plan, please?

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Yes sir, I'll get on it.

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I had great health care under Trump, but I work for a living, it was a lot cheaper before Kenyan care.

Randy

Randy

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Funny! Before I retired we had ( Random) drug testing . Usually in Dec when the City realized uh oh we have to test. Guess who got pulled in equipment service time after time? Got tired of it. Was tested 4 times in a year and really made me mad.
So I changed the name on a pair of coveralls to Random. I show up and they are staring at me! ; Seriously ��*♂️!
I ask; am I the only guy in Equipment Services that can pass the Whizz quiz and breathe test?
I was never called in again!
As for the Union? Good and bad, good for training , health care , wages and pension, bad for protected members that deserve to be fired..system is flawed. Especially State unions SEIU..

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Every month come rain or shine!

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Agree with you. 90 % of the reason most members want to be union in the first place is your statement of "unions are good for training, health care, wages and pension,". After member get all of those, or at least improvements... then a few ridge runners run right along the ridge. I had a couple of them that drove us nuts. They would run right on the edge of being fired. Once every 3 years it was contract time. At that time, we sent out surveys, talked to members at the monthly meetings, and went back to our notes from the previous couple years on what had happened, who got screwed over and how. After compiling, we then crafted about 40 proposals. Members then voted on the most important 20 of those. Then we categorized them from need to just want. After we passed a contract that was agreed upon by both us and the company, it was time to enforce it. Some of language was installed by the company, and sometimes the members bitched at what they considered to backward steps, but it is a two-way street, and the company owns the place. Our jobs are to make sure the company does what they told us they would do in negotiations. Sometimes the shop bosses had a pissy attitude as many times we came out of negotiations with better benefits etc. than they had. We had yearly officers' elections, so if you did a crappy job, you were voted out. I usually ran unopposed, but occasionally a couple guys would want me out of there as they were of the opinion I was a suck a**. Every union has a couple guys that think the union owns the place, instead of the other way around. We are there to enforce the contract, period. Not to try to enforce what we "wish" was in the contract. Sometimes you could sweet talk them into agreeing with something, but it was 100% up to them if whatever you're trying to accomplish is not specially printed in that contract. Thats where the "suck a** comes in to it. I did the job for 10 years until retirement. Since I left no one has made it more than a couple years. It's not an easy job and getting clobbered from both sides sometimes gets old in a hurry. But it put me in a nice middle-class home and lifestyle and kept me racing a Superstocker, a damn fast one I might add, for decades.

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Union Strong!!

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Tests the day after Super Bowl would usually get rid if the undesireables.

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Per the Contract, they could not random drug test. Test were conducted if you tore up any of their equipment. Bang up a forklift, put the wrong size fuse in something and burn up a circuit board etc. Mandatory drug test was issued per contract if you had an on site workers comp claim. So, if you got hurt and went to the ER, they tested you before you left. They never really pushed for random testing, because we would have asked for company people to be tested too. And they sure as heck don't want THAT! LOL

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I've been telling you guys , for 18 years, that this Communist trained and raised POS was a snake in the grass.
I guess this if for the few that haven't figured it out yet:




https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/c...ama/2024/07/02

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Thanks Jeff. I called them; Fencewalkers!
Yeah most of the Union reps were on the inside track!
Some businesses don’t excel with unions, some do.