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Liteweight 03-28-2012 11:32 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 318063)
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...191-mcjury.jpg

I feel like a junkie thats been given a long term fix.
Over time, you'll see why.
Might find the source of this forum before we're through.

Charlie A
I know what you mean.
It looks like the Mcjury car ran both SS/B & SS/BA

liteweight

Hemi Moose 03-28-2012 12:20 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
What Randy Hopkins car looks like today...the Herb McCandless L023 '68 Hemi Dart.

http://www.diecast-pub.com/forums2/u..._504_74925.jpg

http://www.moparaction.com/Article/W...SC_3487mag.jpg

http://www.dragracingonline.com/pmac...-Mr-4Speed.jpg

Quote - Repainted to look just like it did in the day. It should, it was painted by the guy who did the first paint job. The work was orchestrated by SS/AH racer Randy Hopkins. Herb had no idea about the project until he saw it as it looks here. It brought tears to his eyes. We don't need no stinkin' vinyl cutter! You've got to love this hand paint job. This "panel" paint scheme really would suck like disco music if it weren't for the flawless execution. It's got every dated technique in the book thrown at it, gold leaf, drop shadows, pin stripes, marble, and whatever you call that stuff on the b pillars, hood, and deck lid but it works and I love it...

.


Hemi Moose 03-28-2012 02:27 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 317975)
No way, do you hear me?

NO WAY would I have that Dart parked under a lift.

Gives me the shakes just thinkin' about it.

Charlie, you were sayin'...I guess you must have heard somethin' bad.

http://image.moparmusclemagazine.com..._dart+lift.jpg

Liteweight 03-28-2012 02:39 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
HM
You were reading my mind when Charlie posted that. I just couldn't find that exact picture.
Perfect !!!!!!

liteweight

Hemi Moose 03-28-2012 03:20 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
...sure wish Dick Landy was still around today.

http://www.prostockhemi.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Liteweight 03-28-2012 04:03 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 318177)
...sure wish Dick Landy was still around today.

http://www.prostockhemi.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Yup, he made some ordinary days, just a lil special for me. Days I'll never forget. The man was full of information from old racing days to how he was able to "stretch" the rule book. sometimes he got away with it, other times---not so much. A GREAT innovator & true sporstman that was instrumental in making drag racing a recognized sport.
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/.../Landy1998.jpg

liteweight

a990hemi 03-28-2012 05:51 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 318167)
Charlie, you were sayin'...I guess you must have heard somethin' bad.

http://image.moparmusclemagazine.com..._dart+lift.jpg

Looks like Fred's garage. Does he still have the red '64 light weight pictured?

Charlie A 03-28-2012 06:12 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Just the idea of a lock failure or a hose/seal leak and it comes down.
Not knowing the location of that pic, can I mention a small tremor or earthquake of minimal numbers could still cause major damage.

Where's that new bottle of nitro pills???????????????

Liteweight 03-28-2012 08:53 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a990hemi (Post 318198)
Looks like Fred's garage. Does he still have the red '64 light weight pictured?

Good eye a990. Yes it was Fred's. I am unsure of the current status of the 64. Great car tho. Just about brought this one home a few years ago.

liteweight

a990hemi 03-28-2012 08:59 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 318220)
Good eye a990. Yes it was Fred's. I am unsure of the current status of the 64. Great car tho. Just about brought this one home a few years ago.

liteweight

That's a beautiful example of a genuine car in current race legal trim and is definitely one of my favorites too. I see nothing wrong with leaving a well done roll cage and link type suspension under a genuine factory built Super Stock car when the workmanship is of the highest quality as it is with Fred's car.

Charlie A 03-28-2012 10:24 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
This looks like a bit more of a professional paint job than the first pic does.
Wonder if it was faster with the trick paint???? lol

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg822...jpg&res=medium

Charlie A 03-29-2012 02:48 PM

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http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/44...600x600Q85.jpg

Hemi Moose 03-29-2012 05:31 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Hey Charlie, that paint job on Chuck McJurys '68 Hemi Dart looks way better than the original paint job on his Dart...got anymore old pic's of it.

Charlie A 03-29-2012 06:25 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 318397)
Hey Charlie, that paint job on Chuck McJurys '68 Hemi Dart looks way better than the original paint job on his Dart...got anymore old pic's of it.

I think so. Still at work. I'll post up some tonight when I get home. :D

Charlie A 03-29-2012 08:43 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
"Black Top" Version:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...14-Chuck-1.jpg

Spray can custom paint:

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/871...glishtownc.jpg

Hemi Moose 03-29-2012 08:52 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I wonder which painted top came first...also I notice under the 'Playmate' name on the door, there are two different engine builders names...paint & lettering by Kampney.


Charlie A 03-29-2012 09:11 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Here's one with no engine builder logo.

http://www.motorbase.com/uploads/pic...Dodge_Dart.jpg

Charlie A 03-29-2012 09:16 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Wonder if the Playmate ever met the Hustlin' Hemi?

http://images110.fotki.com/v571/phot...mishots-vi.jpg

Charlie A 03-29-2012 09:21 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Last one for tonight.
Who is this?
My old eyes are not that good.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...6-racedart.jpg

Hemi Moose 03-30-2012 01:58 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 318358)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 310434)
Charlie A, Thanx for the question. Funny you would bring this up, cause I just asked Mark J. the same question.. The below list is of missing, unconfirmed LO cars, both stick & autos, just to start with. There are more. This thread has definately helped to narrow it down, even tho it hasn't flushed out the Ace yet.

Bob Banning --Auto
Joe Patele --Auto
Mary Ann Foss --Auto
Cookie Duster Dart ---- Stick ??????
Jonnie River----- ?????
Gator Raider Dart------ ??????
Dallas Hemi------ ???????
Manhatten Speed Shop----- Stick???????

liteweight

So I take it this one called 'Dallas Hemi' is still unaccounted for then...

Hemi Moose 03-30-2012 03:01 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 318468)
Wonder if the Playmate ever met the Hustlin' Hemi?

http://images110.fotki.com/v571/phot...mishots-vi.jpg

Probably many times as the Playmate Hemi Dart was originally from Division 1 and the Hustlin' Hemi Dart was from division 3, see the old decal on the front fender...

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Paul-Richards...Q%7E%7E_12.JPG

http://images56.fotki.com/v1602/phot...shots01-vi.jpg

68hemiss 04-01-2012 09:37 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Guys,
I was fortunate to have met Chuck McJury a few times before he passed. He told me that he ordered an automatic Dart but when he picked it up he got a stick car - although he always ran it as an automatic. The second paint job with the black top - he wasn't happy with so they changed the top to white. Dave, I do not have the McJury car documented - I understand that it is still around - I have gotten the same story from 3 different sources. My favorite memory of Chuck is from the Hemi Reunion. I was checking trailers at the time and on my way back to the strip - they were taking photos of the cars going down the track - and I ran into Chuck & his wife coming from the strip - Chuck had this big smile on his face - he Thanked me for inviting him and complimented the event - he told me that one of the Hemi Dart owners - who had just bought his car told him that he had never been on a dragstrip and was a little nervous going down the track - Chuck told him that he was one of the original owners of a Hemi Dart and offered to drive down the track for him - the owner agreed and got into the passenger seat. Chuck launched the car and banged second gear - then backed off and drove down the track - He told me the owner almost fell out of his seat when he banged second. He was all smiles - how often does a guy get a chance to do this agian almost 30 years sfter he sold his car - Good memories!
Mark J

68hemiss 04-01-2012 09:46 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
The Gold Seeker Dart was originally from here in WI. Jim Wick told me that it was bought from Mr Norm's and brought directly to the track. He warned the owners that they couldn't race the car as delivered - knowing that the front ends were not aligned and often times there wre loose parts on them. The owners ignored him and on the very first pass launched the car and it went directly into the guardrail at Great Lakes Dragaway. Mostly superfical damage but later owners confirmed that the repairs were still there. The first two owners were some black guys from Milwaukee who street raced the car on occasion. The third owner told me that when he went to buy the car the Hurst shifter was broken off and you had to shift it with a vise grips (sitck car) to get the car on the trailer!
Mark J

68hemiss 04-01-2012 09:52 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
The Dallas Hemi became the light blue THT car - there were two - the original was the dark blue car. The dark blue car is accounted for. I have an old Drag News that mentions that a guy in SC had bought the THT Dart and was trying to sort it out in 1971ish- unfortunately this owner has passed and I do not have any other info on which car this was. The dark blue car went to AL.
Mark J

Charlie A 04-01-2012 03:13 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Hustlin' in black and white.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...iperRam246.jpg

Hemi Moose 04-01-2012 03:37 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 318976)

Here's another shot of the '68 Hemi Dart called the Hustlin' Hemi...
...notice the rear spoiler molded onto the trunk lid.

http://www.photoblat.com/jimheller/h...mi-7148-p2.jpg

Hemi Moose 04-01-2012 03:43 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 318469)
Last one for tonight. Who is this? My old eyes are not that good.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...6-racedart.jpg

While I'm not positive, but I think that might be the '68 Hemi Dart called 'Wild Fire'...
...see a name on front fender.

Liteweight 04-03-2012 11:33 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 318981)
While I'm not positive, but I think that might be the '68 Hemi Dart called 'Wild Fire'...
...see a name on front fender.

you may be right on that HM
I remember the long shackles also being on that car. Don't remember this paint scheme when the original owner had it tho. First paint was blue & white, second paint red & silver

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...FirstPaint.jpg
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...irstPaint2.jpg

liteweight

Liteweight 04-03-2012 11:41 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68hemiss (Post 318926)
Guys,
I was fortunate to have met Chuck McJury a few times before he passed. He told me that he ordered an automatic Dart but when he picked it up he got a stick car - although he always ran it as an automatic. The second paint job with the black top - he wasn't happy with so they changed the top to white. Dave, I do not have the McJury car documented - I understand that it is still around - I have gotten the same story from 3 different sources. My favorite memory of Chuck is from the Hemi Reunion. I was checking trailers at the time and on my way back to the strip - they were taking photos of the cars going down the track - and I ran into Chuck & his wife coming from the strip - Chuck had this big smile on his face - he Thanked me for inviting him and complimented the event - he told me that one of the Hemi Dart owners - who had just bought his car told him that he had never been on a dragstrip and was a little nervous going down the track - Chuck told him that he was one of the original owners of a Hemi Dart and offered to drive down the track for him - the owner agreed and got into the passenger seat. Chuck launched the car and banged second gear - then backed off and drove down the track - He told me the owner almost fell out of his seat when he banged second. He was all smiles - how often does a guy get a chance to do this agian almost 30 years sfter he sold his car - Good memories!
Mark J

thanx for that Mark
Marfen (Dave McD.) sent me a couple pictures of Chuck he took while at the Hemi Reunion in 2008. The first one is Chuck getting comfy in Dave's LO stick car. The second is of him with the AFX he was the second owner of.
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...emiReunion.jpg
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...miReunion2.jpg

liteweight

Jared Jordan 04-03-2012 10:29 PM

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I'm not sure if this photo has been posted anywhere in this thread. Admittedly, I didn't start following it until somewhat recently and haven't got through all the pages yet.

This is the Hemi Countdown II. Circa 1970 @ Pomona. The car is currently owned by Mickey Weise. There was a Hot Wheels "Motor City Muscle" series replica of the car made around '02 with the paint scheme MIckey's had on the car.

Hemi Moose 04-03-2012 10:35 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Hey Jared, nice photo of Harry Holton's L023 '68 Hemi Dart
called 'Hemi Count Down'...really like this car.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...0&d=1333506555

Liteweight 04-04-2012 09:48 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
hey Jared
Welcome here. Can always use some fresh blood & photos. Great shot of your grandfathers car. I actually prefer the color combo pre the current restored Mickey Weise colors.
Also in checking the background stuff in the pits it, looks like an ex S&M 67 B body behind it.

liteweight

Jared Jordan 04-04-2012 10:48 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I prefer the original color combo myself as well. I always thought that car was great-looking. I'd like to see that paint scheme on a modern-day version in SS/AH -- called Hemi Countdown III, naturally.

Hemi Moose 04-04-2012 12:58 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Here's a news clipping of Happy Harry Holton's "Hemi Countdown II" '68 Hemi Dart...

http://images32.fotki.com/v1064/phot...nDartSS-vi.jpg

Liteweight 04-04-2012 03:18 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 319560)
Hey Jared, nice photo of Harry Holton's L023 '68 Hemi Dart
called 'Hemi Count Down'...really like this car.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...0&d=1333506555

So, I'm looking at this pic. & it sure looks like the car is classed as a SS/AA car. Bad angle????
What year did NHRA decide nothing factory made was going to be faster than the LO & BO cars & change the class from SS/B to SS/A

liteweight

Charlie A 04-04-2012 03:58 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 319624)
hey Jared
Welcome here. Can always use some fresh blood & photos. Great shot of your grandfathers car. I actually prefer the color combo pre the current restored Mickey Weise colors.
Also in checking the background stuff in the pits it, looks like an ex S&M 67 B body behind it.

liteweight

If I remember correctly that would say Fink's Used Cars on the side of that former S&M plymouth.
How do I remember this stuff and can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday?

Charlie A 04-04-2012 06:22 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...6-oldfield.jpg

marfen 04-04-2012 09:41 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Rollbars used at all in 68? Noticing bolt in bars in 69.
What year did SS/B get bumped to SS/A?

Jared Jordan 04-04-2012 10:07 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 319673)
Here's a news clipping of Happy Harry Holton's "Hemi Countdown II" '68 Hemi Dart...

http://images32.fotki.com/v1064/phot...nDartSS-vi.jpg

Got ahold of my grandfather's scrapbooks today. They've been squirreled away inside a closet at his house for 30+ years. This clipping is from National Dragster and there's a copy of it in one of the scrapbooks I've got here.

I'll post more pictures of the Dart when I get a chance to scan them. I've got a bunch.

Is there an "original hemi barracuda information" thread somewhere? Compared to the Dart I've got WAY more pictures of the two Barracudas he owned. I feel like I stumbled on buried treasure. Pictures of all 5 of the original Hemi cars he owned over the years (2 Belvederes, 2 Barracudas, 1 Dart).

68hemiss 04-04-2012 11:38 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Daryl,
This is a different Wildfire Dart - I was told that this one was not an original Hurst car


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