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The Asphalt Animal was a privately built car...it was built in McDonald, Pa. from a body in white.

Bob George is the one to contact....he knows all about the history of that one, including where it is now. Bob has built a clone to his original to race it...they had both of them up at Beaver Springs for the Nostalgia Nats....you can't tell them apart except for the shiny chroome wheels on the clone.

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Clone has windshield wipers, horn, and PA inspection sticker. You have to look real close to tell them apart.

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If anyone here knows Bob George tell him to come on over to these forums...it sounds like he would have a wealth of information on these old race cars.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...6&d=1345828318

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The purple one I believe belongs to PJ Davenport (dont quote me on the name). My dad bought some steel front end dart fenders from him. He thought it had a wedge and a hemi in it at different times. Pretty sure its not a real dart, but neat none the less

Justin M

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Sometime back in the late '80s I was out on a trip buying a factory '62 Plymouth Max Wedge and someone knew of a '68 Hemi Dart for sale locally and we drove over to have a look. It was painted and lettered in a color I had not seen in person before. The owner told me it had a famous background. "It's the old Bill Bagshaw "Red Light Bandit" car. I kinda smiled and said to myself yeah,right. I asked him if he had any documentation. He left the garage and went in his house and came back with the original title still in Bagshaw's name.

I brought it home with the Max Wedge and had it painted and lettered correctly. I sold it, bought it back and sold it again.

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Frank, if you don't mind me asking what state was that you found it in, and did you buy or sell it to a fellow named Donny Chapmen.

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Hi everyone,Bob George posting here.I have been following this thread and find it quite interesting.We own Bob George Racing (aka)Bob George Enterprizes LLC and have been building and racing Mopars for over 50 years.We have been involved and are involved with a number of original factory race cars that include many BO and LO Cudas and Darts.My late son did the last and most correct restoration on many high end factory race cars including Bill Flynn's Yankee Peddler 65 Dodge Altered Wheelbase car for Tom O'Brian before the current owner purchased it.Presently we are finishing up the original Scootin Cuda of Jerry McClure and also owned by Paul Lance and Bob Stape as well as a few others for the current owners.
We have not commented on many of the post here that have a few inaccuracies but if anyone wishes for additional information they can contact us.:D

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The original intent of this topic was to find the heritage of Liteweight's Hemi Dart.

ANY help there possible?

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Yeah, I guess that is what got the thread started a four years ago or so. But, it has morphed into a pretty good thread, with a lot of good info and geezers b/s session. I hope Liteweight found out what he needed to know...and, this would be a good place to try to get info. But, all the info and b/s is cool to read.....and relive the past.

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The car was not butchered and the only thing I had done to it was painted and lettered. I can't remember if I sold it directly to Donnie Chapman or not. I believe I did. However, I am certain I did buy it back from Donnie. I sold it about 10 years ago to Fred Englehart who later sold it to I believe the present owner.

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Welcome aboard Frank & Bob. Good to see a couple more "ol boys" on this thread. Any & all pictures/comments will continue to keep this thread alive with new blood participation. It wasn't my intent at the beginning to have this thing turn into what it has, but you gotta admit, it's been a great ride.

steve118.
No I'm not any closer on any concrete information on my car yet, tho there is another lead I am following up on from a contact through Jimi V. The last known, documented owner was Lou Vignonia back in the early 80's, but previous to him has just been a big black hole. At least I know the cars it's not , but still waiting for that one clue that'll take me in the right direction.

liteweight

here's a couple shots of marfens car before it's transformation to it's original colors

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...O/IMG_0016.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...O/IMG_0015.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...O/IMG_0014.jpg

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Liteweight is still lookin' for the beginnings of his Dart. That is why some of us will jump in from time to time to renew that thought. As this topic has grown and more people join and BS about the old days, hope is there is a memory out there somewhere that will trigger an avalanche of information about his Hemi Dart.

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Welcome aboard Bob...and thanks Frank.

I have a question...when these L023 & B029 were built at Chrysler & Hurst facility, were they ever given a 'IBM card' like the earlier factory race cars that were built?



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Are you talking bout the little blue "warranty" card?

liteweight

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Nope, they were a card full of little holes in it, basically another form of a build-sheet... here's a couple examples.

http://mapleleafmopars.homestead.com/momoct200638.jpg

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...4_IBM_card.jpg

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Dandy Dick's Dart In the pits at the 1968 AHRA Nationals at New York National Speedway, LI, NY.

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4...ahranation.jpg

M68

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Great picture M68. Never saw that one before. Same car that you'll see in the background on my driveway from post #1813. Notice the HEMI emblems on the doors

liteweight

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Liteweight or Marfen, so you're redoing the Hemi Dart back to it's original paint scheme it had on it...have you started on it yet and whose doing the job if you don't mind me asking.

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Just had to post this one....

After Bob George re-aquired his original Hemi Dart after twenty some years, he took it to Pittsburgh to "mess around". He took it through a "drive thru" at 10.90 something 120+, no helmet, no belts fastened....the devil made him do it. I took this shot of the big old bear crawling out of it after the pass, before track management came down for an earnest discussion...

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Can anyone make out whose '68 Hemi Barracuda that is in the background...

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/8611/scan0111h.jpg

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First guess: Sam Panutty.

Second guess: Jack Arnew.

M68

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Sam Carroll is my guess

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The original group of cars built by Hurst all had IBM cards.We have the card from my Dart,it was under the carpet.:D

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Never knew that. Thanks Bob. I knew they came with the warranty card, For whatever that was worth. Not many guys kept them, for obvious reasons. I was surprised that my old Landy stick car still had it after all the owners it went through.
Bob, is your current car an early build?

liteweight

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Yes,mine is and early one,reportedly one digit s/n from Landy's.:D

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Steve,they said I could make a 14 second run,I thought I did.:D:D

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Maybe the blue tinted head lights were the giveaway...yes I think it's the ex-Sox & Martin B029.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/..._110164408.jpg

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Noticed where the hood comes down in the middle is white on the other picture if that makes any difference...

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Frank, in an old conversation Jack Arnew posted here, he once said that when Sam Panutty bought the Sox & Martin '68 Hemi Barracuda off them, he was told to repaint the car, thus the red & white 'Poor Boy' paint scheme.

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http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg

Here's the '68 Hemi Barracuda of Sam Panutty called 'Poor Boy'...later sold to Jack Arnew and called the 'Carnivorous Cuda'.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9906/carcenter.jpg

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I was just wondering has this L023 been located and accounted for yet...Mark J, or anyone one else here know.

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If that car was tuned by DEBS, it might have been Joe (Pattel ?) from Springfield, Mass area.

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Dave, here's another shot of the same car called 'Dyno by Deb's...there was another L023 painted Gold called 'Denny's Dyno' any connection or were they two different cars.


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I think they were 2 different cars. My friend had a chance to buy Joes car, maybe sometime in the 70's...it was sitting in a snowbank, out beside a shop...$cheap money....he's still kicking himself.

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Two different cars from two different coasts.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8...wallybooth.jpg

M68

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Yeah, he's not the only one. Twenty-twenty hindsight. :)

M68

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Good guess. Thats Sam Panutty at the left door. You can just see the truck in upper right with hood on top of the box. Don't think thats me over right fender, looks too thin to be me, but a long time ago.

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Hey Jack, did you happen to find a '68 Barracuda that you were talking about building a clone to your old car...I seen an old '68 383 Barracuda race car that someone was selling in Maryland a few weeks ago, less engine and had frame connectors & cage, think it was under $2500 or something like that, would have made a nice '68 Hemi clone.


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Here's some old shots of the Speedwin Automotive '68 Hemi Dart...

http://musclecarrestorations.com/gal...2/68dart01.jpg

http://musclecarrestorations.com/gal...2/68dart03.jpg

http://musclecarrestorations.com/gal...2/68dart04.jpg

http://musclecarrestorations.com/gal...2/68dart05.jpg

http://musclecarrestorations.com/gal...2/68dart02.jpg

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looks like all the rear half inner sheetmetal/frame is missing in action. Time frame wise, & where the rear jack stands are I'd have to guess it was in the process of being back halved

liteweight