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1347 10-21-2017 09:17 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 548101)
Don;
I did not make an arbitrary statement.
You are a lot smarter than that..!

The IHRA Pure Stock limits the Spring and Cam which limits HP and RPM.


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you do understand that for some reason you got your wish, as soon as the NHRA guys decided a combo was good and engine guys like Barton, Morgantini, Tillburg and others started working on these engines, they would be 1+ second combos and you would be in the same boat spending alot of money to be competetive again?

KEN BUGAJ 10-21-2017 01:21 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 548241)
you do understand that for some reason you got your wish, as soon as the NHRA guys decided a combo was good and engine guys like Barton, Morgantini, Tillburg and others started working on these engines, they would be 1+ second combos and you would be in the same boat spending alot of money to be competetive again?

I don't believe Dan want's to be in the one second under club, He's just looking to race, back when I built my first stocker it was really a pure stock but with headers & slicks. You'll never see a pure stock run with the factory stock guys, no matter who builds the motor.

HR9121 10-21-2017 11:05 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
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Originally Posted by Mike Meier (Post 548232)
Wish I had the proper meme to reply back with, but:

Not sure if trolling or sarcastically disagreeing......

Lol I'm agreeing with you.

Mike Schwartz 10-22-2017 04:05 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 548160)
No, they don't.
But don't even dare trying to beat me over the head with that one again.
Instead, check the threads, going back about 9 years to see what I had to say about that caper.

I did not mean it to make it sound personal. I would guess we are on the same side of the argument.

Bob Bender 10-22-2017 04:31 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Hey Dan, who gives a **** !!!!

Mike Schwartz 10-22-2017 04:32 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz (Post 548158)
There are already approx. 3,400 different engine+year combos in the Classification Guide, according to what I have found at classracerinfo.com. How many more would be added if crate motors were introduced? Maybe 15-20, each of which will have the exact same specs no matter what car in which they were installed.

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Originally Posted by KEN BUGAJ (Post 548182)
I would say the 21 different Factory Stock classes diluted Stock a bit. lol

The "15-20" in my post referred just to the number of crate motors that would be added, not classes. What I didn't add was that the crate motors should simply be additional optional engines for already existing cars, limited to the maximum installed engine or lower.

For example, the 1972 Ford Mustang has 6-7 different factory engine combinations to use. The most powerful of which is the 351/275 re-rated to 325 or 330 by NHRA. which fits in D/SA-F/SA.In that case, allow any crate motor from Ford that has a maximum rating of 330 or less. That Mustang would still run in the same classes if it had a 330 hp crate motor, lower classes if it had a less powerful engine.

Bob Mulry 10-22-2017 04:44 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Dan Fahey

What is your present combination?

What is the year, make, engine size and factory horsepower that you claim?

What is the year, make and body style that you claim for your car?

What type of transmission?

Thank you.

GTS340 10-22-2017 06:30 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Bob I believe Dan has the same combination Eric Campolito they call the "Taxi cab". he was qualified .930 at the latest division 3 race in J/SA with his 96 Caprice.
Paul

James Perrone 10-22-2017 06:54 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
I want to keep the A/C in the car. Really!
A/c in my race car works when I pick up my time slip

Dan Fahey 10-22-2017 08:41 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GTS340 (Post 548295)
Bob I believe Dan has the same combination Eric Campolito they call the "Taxi cab". he was qualified .930 at the latest division 3 race in J/SA with his 96 Caprice.
Paul

Yes that is correct.
His is actually an SS with a Caprice grill.
Which allows him to run J/SA and good bit lighter!
SS nose would run K L M.
They got a lot invested in it to run that quick.
Think they broke several gears and one engine.
Use to run R/SA with the baby LT1.
The other well know Caprice now runs P/SA.
It was originally built by Bernie Steinke nicknamed Snowflake.
Later bought by Bryan Herter then by Corbitt Marshburn.
NHRA added a lot of HP on the mini LT1 as the national recorded was being hit between Don and Corbitt.

Cool days like today my car will run 12.90.
Figure maybe 3 more tenths left finding every last trick in the book.
Corbitt managed a cold air day best of 12.39 with his F/PS Impala SS before selling it.
My best on cold air day is a 12.68 105

Fwiw our cars have the same chassis as the 60/70/80 Chevelles, GTOs and mid/late 80s Impala and Caprice..

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