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Daryl: This is your chevy buddy from Crookston. Was there any 68 hemi cudas or darts sold in Winnipeg? There was the cuda sold through Trenda Motors in Grand Forks, but I am not aware of any darts. I do remember 2 darts at the old Donnybrook dragway in Brainerd in 1968, but I believe that they came out of the Mpls area.

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This you Jerry? How you doin bud?? & what's a Chebby guy like you all doing in this foreign territory?
To answer your question, no original hemi darts or barracuda's were sold new up here.
Only 2 original Darts came to all of Canada that I'm aware of
I was unaware of anything sold out of Grand Forks. Got any more info on that one?
you wouldn't happen to have some pictures of any of the old iron do you?

liteweight

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No, this is Craig. Trenda sold a hemi cuda to their service manager. It came in with the primered body and the gel coated clip. One of the owens corning door windows was broke and it took forever to get a replacement. It was purchased by Steve Selfeit (sp ?) and raced locally for a short time and then he got a job in Illinois for chevrolet. I talked to him about 10 years ago and he said that he raced it in the UDRA, but he did not cut the car up to be competitive. He sold the car back in the 70s. He is a friend of Wes Rydell and he was a big junior stock racer in the 60s along with a 66 belvidere I, post, automatic, SS/BA car that ran hard. I remember that his personal car was a 67 RT, maroon with a black vinyl top and interior with cragers. He really woke up the plymouth program at Trendas with his knowledge of what the street crowd wanted and what plymouth had available on the order forms.Later, he was a warrenty rep for chevrolet and one of his dealers was Fred Gibb Chevrolet in La Harpe, IL, the home of the ZL1 camaro.

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Hey Craig. Good to hear from you again. Jerry is from Crookston too isn't he? Way too many of you bow tie guys to keep track of.----heh,heh,heh
great story, thanx for sharing bud

Daryl

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H.M. I missed the add , If you have any info please contact me as to where I can find it. Looks like it could be a good starting point .
Thanks
Jack

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Liteweight: Jerry is from here too. Trenda sold a 69 white M code 440, auto cuda in 1969. I cannot remember if they sold any A12 cars, but there was 2 of them running around, but unsure of the selling dealer. The dodge dealer sold a 68 or 69 black hemi superbee with an automatic. My friend ordered it with a 4 spd and refused it when it came in with the auto. I went into the military in 1970, so I lost a couple of years and what was sold in the area. The most known hemi car in our area was the first 68 cuda of John Hagen...best looking too. There was a rumor that there was an original 68 hemi cuda in the area that had a 440 put into it. The fellow that told me that is sharp enough to know what he was looking at, but I was unable to run it down. This was in the early 80s and I was heavy into the chevy stuff at the time and never was able to uncover the story.

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From whence comest thou stupidity?

M68

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I don't blame the guy, I probably would've done the same. The 4-speed ruled back then and that Hurst shifter protruding through the trans tunnel was an icon. No bona fide hot street car had a slushbox in it. :) No way, Jose. HOWEVER, by todays standard, that would be a very desirable car especially if it had a white interior.

M68

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http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/251...andysema05.jpg

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4293/rickkent.jpg

(Rick Kent)

M68

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Mopar68: I agree with you 100% on the auto vs 4spd back in the day. The car came with a black bench with the auto on the column.

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Dandy Dick Landy...

http://www.kedigh.com/cars/67-68/ima...BW_jpg_jpg.jpg

http://www.kedigh.com/cars/67-68/ima...BW_jpg_jpg.jpg

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http://image.hotrod.com/f/eventcover...art+engine.jpg

http://image.hotrod.com/f/eventcover...+side_view.jpg

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Was the wiper motor a S/S requirement?

Can't remember that far back.

Just wondering why they would have been retained when losing weight was a priority.

Minor detail but this whole topic is a history lesson.

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I always wondered why they had wiper motors & windshield wiper blades myself...but some ran without them.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...9212-landy.jpg

http://cdn.dragzine.com/files/2011/12/IMG_9268.jpg

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http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/dpmusclecars/IMG_0819.JPG

http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/dpmusclecars/IMG_0820.JPG

http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/dpmusclecars/IMG_0838.JPG

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http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/dpmusclecars/IMG_0822.JPG

http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/dpmusclecars/IMG_0834.JPG

http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/dpmusclecars/IMG_0831.JPG

http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/dpmusclecars/IMG_0853.JPG

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Here's another shot of Rick Kents L023 '68 Hemi Dart...car is being restored at Bob Mosher's place.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/...ent%201969.jpg

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Liteweight, have any luck finding out any info on your L023 yet...how did Bob Frey make out with any new information about it? Did you ever find one of those 1977 programs.

By the way, there's 300,000 plus views on your thread.

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Haven't heard anything back from Bob yet. I have a couple other leads I'm waiting to hear back from also.So, nothing new to report.
Haven't had any luck finding that 1977 program yet either.

300,000 views & closing in on 2000 posts. Who whoulda thought

liteweight

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This turned into a history lesson.

Best one available on Hemi Darts.

Who would have thought.........

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http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-NHRA-...K2bl1w~~_3.JPG

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5567/speedwin.jpg

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http://a12mopar.com/yabb/Attachments/Pete_25.jpg

Any idea's whose B029 this was...

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Ya just have to love the Hemi Dart......ours, obviously, is not a Hemi....when I bought it 6 years ago, I thought seriously about making it a race Hemi...I didn't......probably much cheaper that I didn't, even tho I have a Steve Wann engine. LOL. Luv the 68 Darts.

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I noticed that you were trying to sell the '68 Dart this past summer in the classifieds, but I was wondering if it would be a good candidate for a Hemi swap...what do you think it would need in upgrades besides the motor, would it need any other chassis work or rear suspension work done to it, just curious.

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. It probably would not be a good canidate for a hemi swap...our Dart still has the rear frame rails and is not a 4 link....it is a cal-trac car that could be changed back to a stocker (much like Steve Wann's car). Our's has gone 1.26, but I just don't think it would work with a Hemi. On the other hand, a 68 Dart can run a 340, 383 or a 440 (like ours) plus the hemi. Also, with the 68, you can run it it GT with the scoop and one inch less wheel base.

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I need to add (in case anyone is interested). Our car is a real 1968, GT, with a title. I am only trying to sell it because...............I am getting old. (Its a bitch) and Donna and I just can't travel as much. Our Dart is a great car and doesn't break. Steve Wann 440 engine (low deck). Pro-trans and all the good stuff. I have never taken the car out of bracket mode. I just need to sell some "stuff". Still have the stocker and street rod to keep me entertained LOL

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Well it could be made into a replica of a real one if any one is looking for one to do up and drive it on the streets...plus it would look good in grey primer with a Race Hemi under the hood...then you could always take it down the road to Barrett Jackson and see if it would generate some interest...post somemore pics of it.

http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=6412

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Here's a couple more shots of John Hagen's old B029 '68 Hemi Barracuda...

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...agway69042.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../Hagen/AMP.jpg

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Stumbled across this one from Minnesota State Dragways.
Anyone know something on this one??

liteweight

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...O/hemidart.jpg

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Valley Motors from Altoona had a whole lot of race cars....quite a few of them were bought from Sox & Martin. They owned the ex Sox 340 Cuda and the ex Sox GTX, among them. I'm pretty sure the AA car was an ex Sox, car, too. I'll try to track down the Feretta's, who owned them...maybe they know what happened to it.

There was also another Hemi Cuda in the Altoona area, Updyke & Thomas from Tyrone. It was bought new at the CP dealership in Tyrone....the name of the dealership escapes me now. The car was later owned, and, I believe is still by Clayton Wright, and he has been very successful. It was for sale at http://freerevs.com/car/286315#main Sam Pannutty owned it for a while.

Both cars were regulars at old Peterson Memorial Dragway near Altoona, and also on the Division 1 Super Stock circuit.

I'll see if I can get ahold of some guys and find out where they went....you guys are really taxing my memory.

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Daryl: There was a black dart w/o the lettering campaignrd by a black team from the Mpls area that would seem to fit this car. If these are from 1970, the lettering may have been added since 1968, or a new owner. I remember the car well, there was a second car at Donnybrook in 1968.
Craig

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That car was owned and driven by John Rivers. He was part of a "team" called the Soulful Strutters. More pictures are in earlier pages of this thread.

Jeff

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You have a PM. Hope it leads to something for you.

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Here's one I don't remember in this forum:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...Number=7172482

Or this one:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...Number=6554031

Internet finds. Not my pics and no way I know to give credit to whoever took them.

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[QUOTE=Charlie A;348977]Here's one I don't remember in this forum:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...Number=7172482
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a great, great unmolested car. Only has relocated springs & mini tubs. I remember when F. Engelhart picked this one up a few years back. Ex Mancini car

liteweight

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Mark J posted this photo back on page 116, he was asking some questions about this L023 called 'Hemi Dart'...

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...2&d=1318772183

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Steve, thanks for the info...I did here that there was a Sox & Martin connection with this B029, but I just figured they had their motors or some other work done by them, I didn't realize that they bought up some of the old Sox & Martin equipment...but keep digging to see what else you can come up with. :)

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[QUOTE=Liteweight;348994]Correct, this was the car Ron won Indy with in 1970. I have the car he got close with in '69. I understand that this car may be being restored to it's 1970 appearance?

The "Car of the Rising Sun" is a real LO23 car, and accounted for. In that photo, it is being driven by a good friend of mine who owned the car briefly in the early 1970's. I cannot recall the names of the brothers who originally owned the car, but it was built more for ISCA-type shows. They were from Central PA (York?). The car was never really a strong runner when my friend owned it. This car eventually ended up being the plain yellow car Lou Mancini built to drive on the street in the late 1970's/early 1980's. It sold a Barrett-Jackson a few years back for $300k, and I believe still resides in Vegas.

Also...I believe the Valley Motors car was a Sox & Martin "customer" car.

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Hi heres some pics of old hemicars

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Welcome aboard rr sweden. Thanx for contributing

liteweight