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RJ 03-31-2009 03:53 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Not sure why there is even a debate on this one? If you are in class is "A" and you come in at 8.51 after the math, you are in the WRONG class, end of story.

Billy Nees 03-31-2009 06:04 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Chuck, you are making my point! If the AHFS is going to work properly then some loopholes need to be closed.

Rob Lloyd 03-31-2009 07:23 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Granted, this is in an odd class (with a 3lb break!). But, if I pull all of my ballast out, I can just get under the max weight for my 'natural' class (A/FS). At which point I will still be over 500lbs(!) heavier than the min weight. There is no way I can ever -legally- get the car down to min wieght (less than 2400lbs w/driver).

I ran one race in A/FS last year at 20lbs under max with -no ballast-. What happens if the scales are off a bit and I roll across at 5lbs over? Do I get tossed?

danny waters sr 03-31-2009 08:21 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Make new weight stickers with the minimum weight and the maximum weight showing on the sticker. If you are anywhere between the two you are good to go.The slower classes with (example )22.99 and more (no maximum) How would you regulate (maximum) on those classes? ( That's another can of worms ) if you regulate all the other classes .

Bart Kilraine 03-31-2009 08:58 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
You are an A car 385 h.p.....you have to weigh 3,250,....you cross the scales at 3,450, thats B weight.the run doesen't count 'cause you in da wrong class.Go back thru tech or take the weight out.Isn't life simple?

Casey Miles 03-31-2009 11:08 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Let's say we eliminate the HP factor and just go weight to cubic inches. There is no more refactoring of the cars then. You have to weigh what the cubic inches you are claiming, simple and easy!
Casey Miles
248H E/S ("F" the 4 HP)

Todd Hoven 03-31-2009 11:47 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 112466)
Let's say we eliminate the HP factor and just go weight to cubic inches. There is no more refactoring of the cars then. You have to weigh what the cubic inches you are claiming, simple and easy!
Casey Miles
248H E/S ("F" the 4 HP)


Hi Casey, So do we let any manufacture car run the best head available? early pontiac can a Big Block chevy engine? or any big block mopar can now run a Hemi head regardless if a factory option. What your saying is to scrap Stock and turn it into Modified eleminator. I know chevy 350 guys don't like running against 351 Clevelands heads up with that same factor. The ford would win every time, beacuse of a superior cyl head. This situation is not simple. about turbo charged cars? thats another ball game. A revisit to modified eleminator might be cool. Boss 302 powered Mavericks. C/SM 67 chevy II's

Todd Hoven 03-31-2009 11:49 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
How about you can't run on or over the minmum weight of the next lower class? That might work

LNorton 03-31-2009 12:08 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Shoe polish doesn't care how much your car weighs...

Casey Miles 03-31-2009 01:21 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Todd, I'm not trying to be smart about it, but I'm racing against 351 Fords in my class as it is. I only have 302 cu. inches. The Fords have to weigh the same, they have 5 speed transmissions, 49 cu inches more and also fuel injection. I think that it would even it up if they had to carry the same weight to cubic inch then an ill run HP factoring by NHRA that deems them and others to run the same class as older cars that have been around the block. Just an opinion that I think others racers may want to look at.
Casey Miles
248H E/S ("F" the 4 HP)


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