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Ed Wright 11-16-2009 02:26 PM

Re: Bad track at Pomona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 151681)
Hasn't NHRA been using VP Lane Choice ever since VP became their official fuel, etc.?

Michael, I don't think so. We see drums with JP1 labels sitting around at Tulsa and other tracks, and I asked which they are, VHT or VP? I was told it is VHT, and that they just changed the name. I believe HRP tried VP for a while and it really sucked. Last time we went there there were JP1 drums everywhere. HRP used to be one of the best hooking tracks in Div 4, but not so much now. Tulsa, Ennis and Memphis were best this year for me.

RPinoski1 11-16-2009 05:50 PM

Re: Bad track at Pomona
 
VP has or had instructions on how to apply their compounds......but I was just looking over their web site and can't find it. If someone can find it maybe this will shed some light as to why the traction problems...

Michael Beard 11-16-2009 09:36 PM

Re: Bad track at Pomona
 
Tulsa only recently switched to NHRA.

PJ-1 is VHT.

Kent Hanley 11-16-2009 09:43 PM

Re: Bad track at Pomona
 
Byron,
It sure sounds like it was the same problem we had at Atco on the Thursday test sesion prior to the points race? If so, it was the VP traction compound that Joe tried . He was able to fix the problem after discovierng it was the traction compound .

Kent

keith ohanesian 11-17-2009 07:36 AM

Re: Bad track at Pomona
 
Ed have you seen Byron? You won't be having a nice day. How are the deer doing? Are they getting ready for the upcoming holiday?

Ed Wright 11-17-2009 10:32 AM

Re: Bad track at Pomona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 151775)
Tulsa only recently switched to NHRA.

PJ-1 is VHT.

PJ-1.JP-1, whatever. I know Tulsa recently changed to NHRA, That is where I have lived for the last 66 years. :D

HRP (Baytown/Houston), Ennis, Memphis, Noble OK, all NHRA, all using VHT from all the PJ-1 drums sitting around. Several of my Houston customers told me early this past summer that HRP had quit hooking like it always used to, and that they had changed to VP Track Bite. They later told me they had changed back to VHT. Still, at the Div races it still wasn't what it used to be. I often wondered this summer if VHT had changed, or the tracks cut back on it to save money. I found at Memphis I had been fighting a junk set of tires, so can't really say about some of the starting lines. Even on the old tires Ennis & Tulsa have been very good.

Michael Lyons 11-17-2009 12:02 PM

Re: Bad track at Pomona
 
No oil down fines, no glue(maybe no good glue), no track prep. Really didn't think they were gonna make that back up outta their pocket did ya?

Hate to say it but NHRA needs to bring back some kind of reasonable fines for the pro's. They didn't have to pay anything to get in, they can afford to pay to keep the track in shape.. benefits them as much as anyone.

Michael Beard 11-17-2009 01:51 PM

Re: Bad track at Pomona
 
The reason I mentioned Tulsa just recently switched is because a track doesn't necessarily use a particular compound based on the sanctioning body, unless it is specifically at a National event. Even for Divisional races, I'm not so sure that the sanctioning bodies don't just use whatever the track uses on a weekly basis.

I'm curious if there is any effect on the surface to using one brand all year, and then spraying something different on it for 1-2 races. You wouldn't think so, since they're scraping the rubber, but.... -=shrug=-

Pageland Dragway in South Carolina is a tiny little track with the best-kept secret. They did a lot of experimenting the last few years with their own homebrew traction compound, and when they hit on it, buddy you could tell! Best 60' times there (with "real" 60' clocks), and the car yanks the wheels higher there than anywhere else. Don't know what they did exactly, but I keep telling them to bottle the stuff and sell it!

Leif Andersson 11-17-2009 03:38 PM

Re: Bad track at Pomona
 
Moore reading on the subject. Scroll to top of page.
http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...3312#262103312

Ed Wright 11-17-2009 04:18 PM

Re: Bad track at Pomona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 151886)
The reason I mentioned Tulsa just recently switched is because a track doesn't necessarily use a particular compound based on the sanctioning body, unless it is specifically at a National event. Even for Divisional races, I'm not so sure that the sanctioning bodies don't just use whatever the track uses on a weekly basis.

I'm curious if there is any effect on the surface to using one brand all year, and then spraying something different on it for 1-2 races. You wouldn't think so, since they're scraping the rubber, but.... -=shrug=-

Pageland Dragway in South Carolina is a tiny little track with the best-kept secret. They did a lot of experimenting the last few years with their own homebrew traction compound, and when they hit on it, buddy you could tell! Best 60' times there (with "real" 60' clocks), and the car yanks the wheels higher there than anywhere else. Don't know what they did exactly, but I keep telling them to bottle the stuff and sell it!

The NHRA national events I went to this year, I always looked to see what they used. Never saw anything but PJ-1 / VHT drums.


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