Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 177085)

Andy,
Personally, I'm glad you started this thread. We need to discuss these issues. None of this would be happening if we were dealing with a decent sanctioning body. But unfotunately we are not. Some say this is just a business for the sanctioning body in question but the sanctioning body does such a good job at masqurading as a family oriented not for profit that it leaves many people bewildered when it makes so many self serving decisions. Make no mistake, these guys know exactly what they are doing. They have been lobbied successfully by the OEM's and others who have a lot to gain from these new cars coming into Stock and Super Stock. These new cars coming into Stock and Super Stock will feed the professional carreers of some and increase income for others, but of course these facts should not be considered when making decisions about Sportsman Racing. There are many indoctrinated racers who simply want to run down the track and they aren't bothered by the fact that very soon their way of racing will be gone forever. Gone? Why-come? Because most racers cannot afford $100,000.00 racing programs and these new cars will simply shatter their dreams of working on their old combinations with the hopes of becoming a player in their respective classes. Nope, that dream is gone. It will be left to the 100 or so racers who are rich enough to exploit a lame, money-sucking sanctioning body.

Bruce -- The way I see it is that it doesn't matter which of us is right as there are only two facts that are important right now -- the first is that the "new" cars are here to stay and the second is that the NHRA isn't about to back down and make serious changes to the current HP as you have suggested -- so here's the dilemma -- which do YOU need more -- a "new" car or a new sanctioning body ....................At some point you must realize that you can beat the drum as loud as you want but no one is coming .................

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 177097)

Jack,
It takes a little time to develop remedies for situations like this one. We have more options than you offer. There is a fully developed thrid option that will soon make it's way through the proper channels. It has taken 14 months to put it together with very little expense. You'll probably hear about it by the end of the year.

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 177128)

Bruce ------------- With promises like this soon I'll offer you a job with me here in the "Christmas City" ---------------- selling "Pre-Owned Vehicles " .........................Just give it up and spit out your new ideas ! ! ! !

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 177097)

Jack,
It takes a little time to develop remedies for situations like this one. We have more options than you offer. There is a fully developed thrid option that will soon make it's way through the proper channels. It has taken 14 months to put it together with very little expense. You'll probably hear about it by the end of the year.

Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 177172)

For 50 years stock eliminator meant a car generally available to the public that was street legal.

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 176619)

Let me give you folks a little history. I used to race trucks in stock eliminator. When I got into my trucks I could run 1.60 under anywhere and faster on occasion. I qualified No 1 at Indy and anywhere. Over the years, I didn't change, my trucks didn't change, my motor didnt change, and the last two years in Indy, I could not qualify with my trucks.