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You guys also didn't mention. There used to be two more SS modified stock classes for FWD. They got rid of them and added SS/EX So the net loss was one.
As far as the new gears goes. I applaud the Cobra Jets and the Drag Packs.
Because you guys whine about the cost of one of those cars. Go try to get a one of gear set made? There is very little interest in such things For the guys that want to go fast with out rules they just put a huge turbo and intercooler on. And gear ratio doesn't make a difference.

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 224274)

Alan, I suggested the same 3 lb. deal to Len (NHRA) when they combined and eliminated the FWD classes years ago. It didn't seem to matter to them that at the time I either was involved with or owned 6 FWD cars. I was just flat ignored!

If you suggested it, that tells me I'm not terribly far off base.

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 224274)

Alan, I suggested the same 3 lb. deal to Len (NHRA) when they combined and eliminated the FWD classes years ago.

Funny, I came to the same 3 lb. conclusion as you and Alan when I was tumbling the numbers around the other day.

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I used to build FWD transmissions for a living, so I know what's in them. The Chryslers, for example, do have a "ring and pinion" of sorts.

I've got the transfer gear, etc from Mopar that comes out to a 3.73 final drive. I was always told that that was the best ratio that could be done for my transaxle without cutting the case, which I was told was illegal. Is all or part of that not true? You have my attention! This car's dying for some gear & tire!

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Answers? Half the people would not have to do anything and continue to have fun while the other half would have work to do which would limit their fun factor.

I thought people kept telling us we need to work harder! (like nobody ever moves classes now...)

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Consolidating classes would be fine for the people who are already on the full pound break. Example...A/SA, C/SA, E/SA, G/SA, etc. What about the people who are in B/SA, D/SA, F/SA, etc? There is a lot more to do than just adding or removing weight to fit a full pound break if you are looking at running heads up against already proven combinations in a class.

So how is it that people move up or down one from their natural class now?

Guess the majority's opinion is that this is a performance eliminator... as long as I have my own class, set up just the way I want it. :rolleyes:

It's no skin off my back if nothing changes... I do enjoy the mental gymnastics involved in the discussion, if nothing else. I'm just a bracket racer that thought Class Racers might appreciate the possibility of a few more heads-up runs (sure wouldn't benefit *me*, so it can hardly be labeled as "an agenda"!), more competition in Class, and less classes to boost potential sponsor involvement and payouts. I thought the long-term advantages would outweigh the short-term speedbump. Big picture. -=shrug=-

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BTW Alan I run a spool. And I can drive my car around the pits it isn't easy but it's possible

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 224292)

So how is it that people move up or down one from their natural class now?

Some move classes to hide from other cars. Some move to increase their chances of more heads up runs, as in getting free rounds. A few even wait to tech in, missing 1st round of qualifying just to see where everyone is classed. With 1 lb breaks, changing class would be a lot of weight to adjust. Think everyone would do it safely?

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Originally Posted by art leong (Post 224305)

BTW Alan I run a spool. And I can drive my car around the pits it isn't easy but it's possible

Art,
I said the cars (transmissions) have a differential when they're built. I didn't say you couldn't lock the differential, or in the case of a Chrysler, put a spool in it.

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 224314)

If they are allowed to just run thier natural class with 1 lb breaks there is no wt. problem.

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 224318)

Art,
I said the cars (transmissions) have a differential when they're built. I didn't say you couldn't lock the differential, or in the case of a Chrysler, put a spool in it.

These transmissions are a sore subject with me. Right now I'm having trans brake / valve body problems And I'm having to learn about it as I go along. There is nobody that wants anything to do with my unit.

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Originally Posted by art leong (Post 224422)

These transmissions are a sore subject with me. Right now I'm having trans brake / valve body problems And I'm having to learn about it as I go along. There is nobody that wants anything to do with my unit.

Things we didn't need to know for a $1000, Alex............

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My wife is no longer interested in my unit.