Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 227592)

And what you're saying is that it's not like that already?

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 227594)

Yeah.....so whats your point?

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 227407)

Chad, I guess you and some others would like a 'quit racing and hi performance' as GM did some years ago. The involvement of the manufacturers is what keeps racing in general moving along. Did you notice that the 'car of tomorrow' didn't really make any friends with Nascar, now the manufactureres are getting real bodies. I think a lot of the complaining is due to GM not in the mix yet. Just because GM isn't here yet, doesn't mean the Ford and Mopar guys are bastards. Do you really think without the manufacturers and vendors that the racing franchises could keep the electric car people, tree huggers, & other Democrats at bay? It would be a short run with a bad car as the Nascar folks say. Was it a manufacturer who built the 55 265 and started all this. It was other manufacturers that responded with the 390's, 406, 409, 413 and the muscle car era.
Without that you don't have a car. Complain all you want, if it offends you that bad, try fishing. I think it's great that Ford and Mopar sneak around the Detroit area tracks and test stuff, and it's even better when we got a spy. GM will be back I believe as they got rid of some of the democrats with the IPO, maybe enough for a special Camaro. Course they yall would have to get mad at Toyota.

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 227560)

Bull. That's about the stupidest argument there is on all of this. Anyone who has a decent running older combination has a legitimate complaint.

Example: We race a 69 Camaro 427/425. Odds are, we'll never race DeArmond or Sorenson, because we run in Division 2, 3, and 4. But we win our share of heads up races and class races in our area. So neither of them are a factor for us, but several of the new cars ARE in the area where we race. So regardless of your B.S. opinion, yeah, we do have a legitimate complaint. Because we can usually run with most of the legitimate and reasonably factored combinations, at least close enough to make it a real race. But we can't run with the new cars, no matter what we do (at least within the rules).

Originally Posted by Stewart Way (Post 227610)

Maybe not the coolest thing at PRI but the most shocking thing I saw. Jesel now has solid roller lifters for the 5.7/6.1 Hemi for SS. These are drop in lifters, no keyed bushings or machining. Just 16 lifters and 4 tie bars similar to the plastic pieces the factory used to hold the stock lifters. Ready for this....$3200.

Originally Posted by R Brown (Post 227602)

I'm betting they will win some races in 2011 but also they will lose races as well, based on looking back at results from 2010 I don't see it to effect anything after class runoffs. I would like an explanation as to how it effects eliminations after that. I mean how often did these headsup races with the CJs and Dps really happen once eliminations started?