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Chad Rhodes 05-11-2013 12:32 PM

Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
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Originally Posted by Queball Lattie (Post 381086)
Maybe if Comp, Super Stock, and Stock went back to racing off the National record the fans would be more interested. Racing to 1000 feet is not interesting to the fans because they don't understand about saving your index. This would take class racing back to "Go fast or go home".

And then we'd just have new cars, and a few odd ball combos. And deepest pockets win

69ss/rs 05-11-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 381058)
Which means what, exactly? Many racers didn't support IHRA when they were at their strongest and were doing everything the racers said they wanted.


Didn't most people pitch a fit years ago when they separated the Sportsmen from Gainesville and sent them to finish up at Orlando?

Mike, the difference is the ones that want to race and the ones that have image problems. Like you said when IHRA was strong I preferred running IHRA than I did NHRA. One of the main things I liked was that when they had you on the schedule to run, that almost always within an hour of that time you where going down the track. They didn't give preference to the Pros over the sportsmen. Plus for some reason it seemed that you where not rushed like they do in NHRA. They also made you fill like your opinion meant something. You will always have those that will drive by an IHRA race to go to an NHRA race an get treated like crap, but what can you do ; some people just don't see the forest for the trees. Where else could anybody just show up at a national event, join the sanctioning body and the race in the same day. I may be in a minority, but I could give a sh-t if Top Fuel and Funny cars are left out of the mix.

Queball Lattie 05-11-2013 01:09 PM

Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
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Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 381088)
And then we'd just have new cars, and a few odd ball combos. And deepest pockets win

But the fastest car would win. Then Super Stock and Stock would not be a bracket race anymore.

Doug McCue 05-11-2013 01:10 PM

Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
with all the rules NHRA has been putting into class racing, will street racing become more prominent?

442OLDS 05-11-2013 01:22 PM

Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
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Originally Posted by 69ss/rs (Post 381091)
Mike, the difference is the ones that want to race and the ones that have image problems. Like you said when IHRA was strong I preferred running IHRA than I did NHRA. One of the main things I liked was that when they had you on the schedule to run, that almost always within an hour of that time you where going down the track. They didn't give preference to the Pros over the sportsmen. Plus for some reason it seemed that you where not rushed like they do in NHRA. They also made you fill like your opinion meant something. You will always have those that will drive by an IHRA race to go to an NHRA race an get treated like crap, but what can you do ; some people just don't see the forest for the trees.

The very first IHRA National event that I ever attended had some rain.After they dried the track,they went right into the PROs.(skipped the Sportsman)This was when they actually had PROs.

And IHRA can treat you like crap too.They actually would not let me pit with my parents,because we "didn't arrive together".

With the contingency of today's IHRA,you could WIN the race and probably still not break even for the weekend.

Jeff Niceswanger 05-11-2013 02:14 PM

Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
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Originally Posted by Queball Lattie (Post 381092)
But the fastest car would win. Then Super Stock and Stock would not be a bracket race anymore.

Jimmy Defrank just had to go through 4 heads-up rounds to win his race this year. Latino had a heads up in the final to win his. Every time one of these races happen the difference between bracket racing and class emerges. Those situations don't appear in Bracket racing....ever. That is exactly why stock/superstock combo's don't appeal to many stock/superstock racers. The lack of heads-up possibilities turns them off.

Michael Beard 05-11-2013 02:45 PM

Re: Should Pro's be seperated from Sportsman
 
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Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 381094)
The very first IHRA National event that I ever attended had some rain.After they dried the track,they went right into the PROs.(skipped the Sportsman)This was when they actually had PROs.

And IHRA can treat you like crap too.They actually would not let me pit with my parents,because we "didn't arrive together".

With the contingency of today's IHRA,you could WIN the race and probably still not break even for the weekend.

IHRA always had a published schedule, specifcally stating the times that Pro sessions ran. That's not 'treating you like crap', it's following an explicit published schedule. Have they always been perfect? I don't think anyone has. One thing with Bader was he always told what a decision was and WHY it was made.

Didn't allow saving of spots? Good! I always hear people holler about all the roping off of multiple spots at NHRA events. Again, IHRA had a published policy. If I couldn't park 'here', I park somewhere else. Not a big deal.

Contingency? Refer to previous post. NHRA contingency is lower now than IHRA was 10 years ago. We and the sanctioning bodies should be kissing the feet of every sponsor out there. Where might NHRA be in 10 years?

Alan Roehrich 05-11-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger (Post 381100)
Jimmy Defrank just had to go through 4 heads-up rounds to win his race this year. Latino had a heads up in the final to win his. Every time one of these races happen the difference between bracket racing and class emerges. Those situations don't appear in Bracket racing....ever. That is exactly why stock/superstock combo's don't appeal to many stock/superstock racers. The lack of heads-up possibilities turns them off.

Then they should come to the Bowling Green combo races. We can, and do, have heads up races.

442OLDS 05-11-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 381103)

Didn't allow saving of spots? Good! I always hear people holler about all the roping off of multiple spots at NHRA events. Again, IHRA had a published policy. If I couldn't park 'here', I park somewhere else. Not a big deal.

Will friends/family be allowed to pit together at the upcoming CLASSNATIONALS event you are promoting if they don't "arrive together"?

Jeff Niceswanger 05-11-2013 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 381107)
Then they should come to the Bowling Green combo races. We can, and do, have heads up races.

Your right Alan, and look at your car counts!


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