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Dan Bernay 06-06-2013 06:20 AM

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It will be very interesting to look back at this situation in 10yrs?
To see the state of NHRA that point.
Seems like racers are not simply going to be sheep anymore, following what the sanctioning body says with no questions.
Will sportsman racing still exist today as we know it?
More people will speak up now that Mr Barton has set a trend, hopefully.
I can't speculate on NHRA's agenda, but it don't look good, for there future or that of the sportsmen racer.
Sorry for the negativity but that's where I see this going.

1320racer 06-06-2013 08:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Jordan (Post 384879)
I can't help but wonder how NHRA would've handled it if, when Stock/SS were called to the lanes, all the competitors drove right past the staging director and parked on the track in protest.

IF the fine and apology aren't reversed before the national event at Maple Grove, THIS^^^^ is what needs to happen but we all know will not because racers don't stick together, are afraid of repercusion from the NHRA and THIS is why you are treated like the filler you are at National events.

You guys need to stand with David and make your voice heard by hurting their bottomline!!!!!

James Perrone 06-06-2013 09:23 AM

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David sorry about you being fined thanks for speaking up.Now lets be real.NHRA dosent care about how many people boycott an event,there gonna run the class weather they have 80 cars 0r 10.Ed about being sheep this is the arena we race ..The track is the same for everyone fair or not..Most of the BOYCOTTERS don't have adog in the fight..
We aren't sheep we are Class racers....Jump in the water is warm..

jim powers 06-06-2013 09:26 AM

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Jared and 1320 that sounds like a good idea, it has been tried before in a similar fashion , i was at indy when the modified eliminator racers paraded down the return road in protest but it didnt save modified and it won't do anything now, as far as Barton having to appologize to the starter,wtf??? is the starter a thin skinned philosophy student???can you imagine Buster having this go on?? you would have got one of his famous boots up your behind , whether you were right or wrong, respect gets respect

Mike Brogniez 06-06-2013 09:36 AM

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Its the Golden rule, he who has the gold (entry fees) Rules.................
MB

1320racer 06-06-2013 09:38 AM

Re: Who didn't see this coming? - Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 384972)
Now lets be real.NHRA dosent care about how many people boycott an event,there gonna run the class weather they have 80 cars 0r 10. Ed about being sheep this is the arena we race ..The track is the same for everyone fair or not..Most of the BOYCOTTERS don't have adog in the fight..
We aren't sheep we are Class racers....Jump in the water is warm..

James, IF EVERY stock and super stock racer boycotted 1 event, you will get their attention. Doing NOTHING other than complaining on an internet website will result in NOTHING will ever change! That said, you know I have the $ and the knowledge to jump in tomorrow. ANYBODY with the coin can build/buy a 1 under combo in the year 2013. However, I refuse to be treated like sh...t, I refuse to park my rig in a field 1/2 mile away in the mud. I refuse to accept the junk track they say is perfect, I refuse to be filler for their schedule, I refuse to be ready at their whim, I refuse to put my car on a track that is either not prepped or too cold, I refuse to beg contingency sponsors for $. I am the customer and my money is green and good everywhere. I'll continue bracket racing weekly at the best track in Division 1 where track prep is NEVER an issue regardless of how hot or how many cars and I'll continue to race for bigger/better payouts and wally's as well.

tony wood 06-06-2013 10:16 AM

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I've said many times nhra dosn't give a crap about stock &super stock. we are just fill a fill in like everybody knows. the problem is they will let more super gas, super comp, pro-mod, top dragster, top sportsman in & would probably bring in all nostalga cars. they dont care about us. they think we complain to much. they dont even care about pro-stock (the best class they have) they were only spraying & dragging to 1000 ft. i myself haven't raced in two years (been jr. racing with Michael my son) but ive heard all the complaints. the 70s ,80s & 90s were the best of times nhra seemed to care. free t- shirts & products without nhras permission. sorry to see not always fun like it used to be.

Ed Wright 06-06-2013 10:38 AM

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Tony is absolutely correct.

Dennis P Chapman 06-06-2013 10:59 AM

Re: Who didn't see this coming? - Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tony wood (Post 384980)
I've said many times nhra dosn't give a crap about stock &super stock. we are just fill a fill in like everybody knows. the problem is they will let more super gas, super comp, pro-mod, top dragster, top sportsman in & would probably bring in all nostalga cars. they dont care about us. they think we complain to much. they dont even care about pro-stock (the best class they have) they were only spraying & dragging to 1000 ft. i myself haven't raced in two years (been jr. racing with Michael my son) but ive heard all the complaints. the 70s ,80s & 90s were the best of times nhra seemed to care. free t- shirts & products without nhras permission. sorry to see not always fun like it used to be.

x2

Dick Butler 06-06-2013 12:39 PM

Re: Who didn't see this coming? - Barton
 
ANother day another complaint about NHRA. Being tossed for a degree on an intake lobe in stock. Cutting side walls of slicks that grew between runs. Throwing out all old cars from Stock. Doing away with Modified eliminator. Bogus spec motors being allowed to keep from a suit over mis interpretation. Doing away with Pro Stock Trucks. Making time trials directly after Jet cars at points meets running on the diesel fuel for 3 to four pairs without re runs. Sadly many forget there will always be another disappointment. Another break down in the rules or enforcement. It is a business with employees who bend with the minute or day due to fatigue of pressure from "upstairs".
Good Luck to David Barton.... Glad you at least didnt crash it again..
Want to race again? You may need to do what is asked by NHRA, and accept another disapponting condition we cannot hope to correct every time.
I miss the racing, I do not miss the adgitation.


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