Originally Posted by Robert Swartz (Post 399487)

Yeah, pretty much they have. I have "most" of the pieces to put a SBC crate car together. Lack of time and motivation have kept me from pursuing it. I have a set of Parson's heads and the matching intake. Comp Cam and new Sherman lifters. Ross Pistons and a couple sets of good rods both stock and super stock. A legal carb that I got from Jeff Ross, built by a reputable person. The car already has a prepped rear with all Strange parts. Cal tracs and mono leafs. Have the pucks in the front subframe, need to rebuild the rest. Got the wheels and tires. Roll bar and frame connectors, just need to get them set up and welded in. Got a good 4 bolt main block with a steel crank, a donor from an old truck to build the engine from. They'll probably abolish the class before I finish the car.

Bruce told us we could expect to have $1600 or so in the block and crank work. I imagine with extras that figure will close to double. I gave him my modest expectations of what I expected the car to run. He laughed and said, if the car was set up at all, he didn't feel we'd have to worry about going that slow!

I love the PS concept. It's what Stock USED to be. My little FWD car won't fit into Pure Stock. Wish they pushed the same number of weight breaks as regular stock.

Originally Posted by KennyAnderson (Post 399550)

"Yeah, pretty much they have. I have "most" of the pieces to put a SBC crate car together. Lack of time and motivation have kept me from pursuing it. I have a set of Parson's heads and the matching intake. Comp Cam and new Sherman lifters. Ross Pistons and a couple sets of good rods both stock and super stock. A legal carb that I got from Jeff Ross, built by a reputable person. The car already has a prepped rear with all Strange parts. Cal tracs and mono leafs. Have the pucks in the front subframe, need to rebuild the rest. Got the wheels and tires. Roll bar and frame connectors, just need to get them set up and welded in. Got a good 4 bolt main block with a steel crank, a donor from an old truck to build the engine from. They'll probably abolish the class before I finish the car.

Bruce told us we could expect to have $1600 or so in the block and crank work. I imagine with extras that figure will close to double. I gave him my modest expectations of what I expected the car to run. He laughed and said, if the car was set up at all, he didn't feel we'd have to worry about going that slow!"

Robert forgive me for being naïve but exactly what is "crate motor" about this build? If I was going to this trouble it would be a legal motor.

Originally Posted by Tar Heel (Post 399559)

I think the original intent of Crate Motor Kenny was to actually buy a crate motor from GM, Ford, etc. and then do the necessary modifications on that long block to get it to run under the index. However, the only thing necessary on a "crate motor" to be legal ... let's say a Fast Burn for instance, would be the legal heads. When you buy a complete engine from GM you change the rods, put in a Stocker cam, add a single plane intake, etc. Everyone has access to a SBC block, crank, and then can add aftermarket rods, legal pistons, intake, etc. for well under what the factory charges for the long block ... most of which you won't use if you really want to be fast. He'll still be legal but is just gathering parts instead of buying the engine complete.

Originally Posted by KennyAnderson (Post 399568)

Im with you, I just think this is not the most economical way to go. If Im piecing together a motor like this why not just build a legal motor to run either sanctioning body. I would expect to spend 10k for a good legal setup building it myself. I figure on buying a used ZZ4 and going through it to the tune of around 5k. Hopefully when Im ready the guy I alluded to in an earlier post has some stuff still. Right now he has a fastburn motor fresh carb to pan for 3k. I completely understand you CAN spend a ton if you like, I love that you can compete without doing it.

PS Would love to see IHRA do a Crate Motor SS deal.

Originally Posted by KennyAnderson (Post 399579)

Completely agreed. A few PS cars down here but not many.There are some C/M cars I looked at turnkey just couldn't find the right one. Plus I want the kids to get an education as we progress through this. There is a 3rd gen Camaro C/M car down here for sale that goes pretty far under the index for $7500. Its just waayyyyy to rough for me. A bud bought a Malibu wagon C/M car that goes 4 tenths under in the heat for $5k TURNKEY!!! Wish I found that one first and I have asked for dibs when/if he ever tires of it.

Originally Posted by Tar Heel (Post 399599)

Yes, no sense in investing in something that's not clean and worth the money. It may not be right thinking but my thought process has always been if the body/interior is rough was the drivetrain done well and is it safe? It's just my personal preference but I'd rather go slower in an above average clean car that's safe.

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 399608)

HOWEVER.. have an additional advantage..

We can put on our wide wheels and tires and go Road Racing or Auto Crossing.

Which NO Stocker or SSer can do...:eek:

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