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Lenny5160 02-12-2016 04:34 PM
Re: Live From 2016 Winternationals
 
You could ask Don Keen for his opinion on TruSTART...

MR DERBY CITY 02-12-2016 05:09 PM
Re: Live From 2016 Winternationals
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 495412)
You could ask Don Keen for his opinion on TruSTART...
Interesting thru 2 rounds of stk/SS only 1 pair would be affected by TruStart.

Lenny5160 02-12-2016 05:24 PM
Re: Live From 2016 Winternationals
 
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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 495416)
Interesting thru 2 rounds of stk/SS only 1 pair would be affected by TruStart.
Pretty much spot on according to the trends mapped out by Beard. Should be roughly 1-2%. The tree has dropped 104 times between those classes.

Jim Caughlin 02-12-2016 06:50 PM
Re: Live From 2016 Winternationals
 
I don't really care whether the first or worst red light rule were to be put in place but the reality is that you can't look at current statistics to mean anything as the tree is not blinded. This is obviously skewing what actions are taken by the faster car. Seeing the red come on the other side of the tree would obviously affect how the faster driver reacts.

Mike Keener 02-12-2016 10:25 PM
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Bingo....most of the time it would only matter in a heads up race or races that are get close to the same dial. In other instances the car leaving last will continue having an advantage. For example an A car racing a N car after seeing clearly the red light by the N car, instead of just going for it freebie style- will simply just dog it.

Lenny5160 02-13-2016 12:22 AM
Re: Live From 2016 Winternationals
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Keener (Post 495443)
Bingo....most of the time it would only matter in a heads up race or races that are get close to the same dial. In other instances the car leaving last will continue having an advantage. For example an A car racing a N car after seeing clearly the red light by the N car, instead of just going for it freebie style- will simply just dog it.
How will the A car clearly see the red, when the ambers are blinded and the green light illuminates until the A car has left?

I think the previous poster was pointing out that the current statistics of potentially impacted races are skewed because the faster car sees the red and then hits the tree harder as a result. It is a fair point, but I could imagine that there are also drivers who become by distracted by the red and don't hit the tree as hard.

At any rate, the number of impacted races does not change the good principle behind the system.

Mike Brogniez 02-13-2016 01:12 AM
Re: Live From 2016 Winternationals
 
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Originally Posted by Bob Gullett (Post 495393)
Racing done for us at the winters. We both had good races but just came up short. Already getting hot out. Conditions were almost a clone from yesterday. Its 10:30 here and hot. Too early for a beer? LOL
Thanks for the report and pictures Bob.
MB

davidhuff 02-13-2016 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Brogniez (Post 495456)
Thanks for the report and pictures Bob.
MB
Thanks also for all your pictures and reports!

Bobby DiDomenico 02-13-2016 12:13 PM
Re: Live From 2016 Winternationals
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 495452)
How will the A car clearly see the red, when the ambers are blinded and the green light illuminates until the A car has left?

I think the previous poster was pointing out that the current statistics of potentially impacted races are skewed because the faster car sees the red and then hits the tree harder as a result. It is a fair point, but I could imagine that there are also drivers who become by distracted by the red and don't hit the tree as hard.

At any rate, the number of impacted races does not change the good principle behind the system.
I'd expect in most cases the faster car lays off the tree and saves the equipment skewing the current results away from red lights.
Installing it would seem to even the playing field and I don't think it would take spectators long to understand it.

B Aceves 02-13-2016 01:32 PM
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Any of you guys who say that you can clearly see the other guy go red while he leaves first , Clearly do not have a clue..


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