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Don Braun 03-19-2019 02:02 PM
Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown
 
the chassis certs are @ 7.50 for current FSS cars, I wonder when they'll eclipse that ??

Bobby Lundholm 03-19-2019 02:20 PM
Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fastlane (Post 585223)
I think you will find the cost to buy that car and build it to where it needs to be to be competitive is closer to $225,000
That's even worse. I was basing my estimate off of buying the car, pulling the engine and trans to have them gone through.

Irace007 03-19-2019 04:25 PM
Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph A Powell (Post 584908)
No not our beloved NHRA! It will go the way of PRO Stock already some else pays. It will be the elminator of the HAVES and HAVE NOTS,


It already is !

BG56 03-19-2019 05:52 PM
Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Lundholm (Post 585239)
I completely understand that. As with Pro Stock they aren't in it to win money, but at least Pro Stock gets $25,000. Granted that doesn't cover the costs of their program either but it does look a lot better than $1,500. What about Laughlin winning $50,000 for his small tire race win at Lights Out? If you made it $15,000 to win in Factory Shootout wouldn't even more racers show up?
BINGO! Those other races with nice purses are what NHRA can't compete with and are losing racers to. Pro Stock is almost irrelevant in the scope of things. FS/XX might be for (fun) but how long will they stick with it for (no) return? Like an old Pro Stock racer and friend says "Want to make a small fortune racing? Start with a Big one!"

fastlane 03-19-2019 07:09 PM
Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Lundholm (Post 585249)
That's even worse. I was basing my estimate off of buying the car, pulling the engine and trans to have them gone through.
Just a basic cost to be competitive in Showdown
new car $130,000
Build a showdown engine $40,000
Showdown Trans and convertor $15000
Update cage to 7.50 spec $9000
full racepack $8000
second set wheel tires $3500
Lighten car add weight to back $500
different third member $2500
Proper shifter $1000
Suspension $10,000
in car communication $1500
Assorted other things needed $3000
Spare parts $$$$$$$
Total at least $225000 You can do it for a bit less but you will not qualify and may not even at that cost either. And constant work needed after each event. And add in a trailer and Motor home you can add $250,000-$400,000
It is not a class for the average sportsman.

Mike Jones 03-19-2019 08:19 PM
Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown
 
JDM Engineering once posted on here, that one of his customers had 100K in the trans. I asked if he meant 10K, he said nope.
MJ

fastlane 03-19-2019 08:36 PM
Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Jones (Post 585280)
JDM Engineering once posted on here, that one of his customers had 100K in the trans. I asked if he meant 10K, he said nope.
MJ
Seems high you can buy a Coan or Joel Showdown trans for 10-11 grand and a aluminum light weight bolt together converter for 5-6 grand Maybe he had it gold plated.

Dan Fahey 03-19-2019 09:15 PM
Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown
 
Damn I wish Pure Stock was back.
Getting it set up to make STOCK is $10000.
Another $10000 to make it competitive with other care in class
And that is cheap.
To really make it all up requires frame up restoration to benefit from all the rules. Weight shifting, special bearings, REM, metal treatment. ETC

The concept of Stock left reality a long time ago.

They are Comp cars with a smaller cam.

Todd Hoven 03-19-2019 09:56 PM
Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown
 
This has what to do with Factory Showdown racing?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 585286)
Damn I wish Pure Stock was back.
Getting it set up to make STOCK is $10000.
Another $10000 to make it competitive with other care in class
And that is cheap.
To really make it all up requires frame up restoration to benefit from all the rules. Weight shifting, special bearings, REM, metal treatment. ETC

The concept of Stock left reality a long time ago.

They are Comp cars with a smaller cam.

JHeath 03-20-2019 12:32 AM
Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 585286)
Damn I wish Pure Stock was back.
Getting it set up to make STOCK is $10000.
Another $10000 to make it competitive with other care in class
And that is cheap.
To really make it all up requires frame up restoration to benefit from all the rules. Weight shifting, special bearings, REM, metal treatment. ETC

The concept of Stock left reality a long time ago.

They are Comp cars with a smaller cam.
Damn, I wish you would go away !


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