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Carguy49 08-10-2021 11:23 AM

Re: New Era. We are wanting change
 
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Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 645144)
You need to read the article on the Ford site that Tony Stewart wrote about racing the CJ electric car. According to him (an expert on drag racing), the only difference that he noticed was that the electric version did not torque over during acceleration. Considering that the electric motor was attached to a conventional automatic transmission with a driveshaft and rearend, I'm pretty sure the reminder of the chassis was not aware of where the power came from. To make matters worse, no one at Ford was technically aware of the way that the car was constructed to catch the error in his comments and let the press release go out as is. Also, to avoid embarasement, they didn't report the ET's. Not to say it isn't fast but maybe they should put Jeff Lane who knows how to drive it in the car for the exhibition runs.

Could someone link the Ford article, I seem to not be able to find it, might be a good read.

Jeff Lane or Pat McCue would be good choices to drive the car, with all the development time they have with the car. Don't forget all the time with the eCOPO, also. Pat has tremendous knowledge in electric cars. They could just put Bob Tasca III back in the car. He ran 8.12, I believe. With time car should be able to run in the 7's.

jmcarter 08-10-2021 11:32 AM

Re: New Era. We are wanting change
 
Use to be a Tony Stewart fan; now not so much. Leah, Erica and several others have taken on the Pro s..t show mentality that separates them from their sportsman roots. They've gone to the dark side.

People can moan and groan all they want but nobody within the NHRA upper echelon is even remotely interested. Their focus is to continue the emphasis on PRO's since those are the only classes that will be left standing eventually. The RPM act and all the other incremental lifelines for the traditional sportsman racers will one day be exhausted. IMHO our only avenue for change is via the existing SRAC and small improvements may come about but the California centric NHRA has bought into their state's model for the future.

Fireofficer74 08-10-2021 01:32 PM

Re: New Era. We are wanting change
 
Drag racing and possibly all auto racing is on a downward spiral.

When your sanctioning body closes a drag strip and sells the property to developers, that is not a good sign.

Time to convert those stockers back to street machines.

Remember who were the fans in the stands back in the 60's and 70's, it was all the old men here.

Dan Bennett 08-11-2021 04:53 PM

Re: New Era. We are wanting change
 
This has been an interesting thread with both sides making good points. But in my opinion, nothing I've seen will help the problem. That's because imo what has caused the decline has nothing to do with drag racing, or even cars for that matter.

I spent many hours in the towers from the late 80s through the turn of the century. I had a lot of conversations and listened to a lot more. Back then, a very strong majority of the people with NHRA running the race and the sport were serious car people and most had been racers themselves. They knew, they understood, and their eyes would light up just like the rest of us.

But during that time, the country was changing rapidly from the previous "make a good profit, keep things moving forward" to "yearly or quarterly results are everything". I don't want to argue economics or politics, that's just something that was very apparent to me.

So since it was "good business", the car guys begain getting replaced by MBAs and marketing majors. They knew little or nothing about the sport but had degrees that taught them how to maximize profits. Actually getting out and talking to your customers, from their studies, was nowhere near as important as buying reports from marketing companies and watching what other successful ( = quickly increasing the bottom line) businesses were doing. Yes, I heard many of them (fairly often) talk about sportsman racing being mostly filler for the pros.

At this point, other than the Dragster staff which is sadly just a ghost of what it once was, there's only a handful of true car people left. I would be highly surprised if anyone in Glendora could even explain the difference between SS and Stock other than "well, one gets to do more stuff and is faster" Other than Tech and DDs, it isn't part of the current job description.

They have no idea of how or why all of us fell in love with the sport in the first place. I doubt they ever will. So the decisions they make don't include much thought about what is good or bad for the racers they control. They aren't evil people out to get us. They simply have no idea why we do what we do and why we feel so strongly about how it is done.

When we are all talking about somebody making a moonshot run or building a really creative car, something like that never enters their conversation. But quite a few of them would know that one of the fuel drivers doubled their tshirt sales during the event.

Sorry for the length, but I just wanted to unload some thoughts after being partially on the inside and mostly on the outside watching the sport over the years.

And we have little power since the proxy vote that gave the board the sole power to do whatever they wanted. That's a lot more than I want to get into here other than stating that I did not support that move. Sadly, I think most members of the time were thinking "Wally always looks after us, if the NHRA wants it I'll go along".

novassdude 08-11-2021 05:33 PM

Re: New Era. We are wanting change
 
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Originally Posted by Dan Bennett (Post 645275)
And we have little power since the proxy vote that gave the board the sole power to do whatever they wanted. That's a lot more than I want to get into here other than stating that I did not support that move. Sadly, I think most members of the time were thinking "Wally always looks after us, if the NHRA wants it I'll go along".

Just curios What year did that vote happen.

Dan Bennett 08-11-2021 06:15 PM

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It was a LONG time ago. I don't remember the exact date but I'm thinking it was the very early 1980s.

Billy Nees 08-11-2021 06:45 PM

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I'm thinking 1982.

4543 08-11-2021 08:36 PM

Re: New Era. We are wanting change
 
Late 70s-early80s. Dan is correct, we all thought NHRA at that time would always do what was best for the sport. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

GUMP 08-11-2021 09:46 PM

Re: New Era. We are wanting change
 
So, I have read all this stuff, what exactly is it that you want?

MoJo Risen 08-13-2021 03:26 PM

Re: New Era. We are wanting change
 
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Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 645294)
So, I have read all this stuff, what exactly is it that you want?

Give Back Drag Racing to its members?

Raise winnings to the Sporstman contests back to 1969 US nationals When A win in Stock eliminator was $6000 per the 1968-1969 documentary?


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