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Billy Nees 12-27-2021 03:54 PM
Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 654534)
On a similar note, maybe someone could tell me whether or not "drive by wire" is still legal in Stock? If it is , would it be possible for the high powered low 9 second FX cars to leave the line at, say 40% throttle, and then go WFO at a timed point down track?
Obviously carbed cars couldn't do this :-)
Some of them have been doing that from the get-go! Easiest form of traction control. They aren't even using full throttle down track, they're spinning the tires past the eighth.

e vassar 12-27-2021 04:33 PM
Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell
 
Are we debating the ultimate class racing contradiction? Because I read over and over how out of whack the payouts and contingencys are compared to the cost of racing stk s/stk in the NHRA world. Most of us agree we do it because we love the cars,the people,the performance challenge,and chasing the Wally.
Maybe I'm just nieve, but it simply doesn't make sense to me to risk getting caught. I'm not talking about chamber CC or too light rods etc. I'm talking traction control, delay boxes,down track stutter,etc.

Doug Hoven 12-27-2021 05:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 654538)
Some of them have been doing that from the get-go! Easiest form of traction control. They aren't even using full throttle down track, they're spinning the tires past the eighth.
As far as I know, the factory installed program on cobra jets until at least 2016 were not programmable to open the throttle greater down the track. However, once a racer upgrades to a something like a Holley system, they are able to do time-based throttle opening rate.

SSDiv6 12-27-2021 06:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 654538)
Some of them have been doing that from the get-go! Easiest form of traction control. They aren't even using full throttle down track, they're spinning the tires past the eighth.
With the MSD Grid, you can also do it with a carbureted engine.
Kill the timing on launch and kick it during the run.

https://www.holley.com/blog/post/go_...nition_system/

Billy Nees 12-27-2021 07:22 PM
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What I'd like to know is how many Racers are actually "spot-dropping" and how many are using their ignition box, grid and data logger to determine an exact time and distance on the track to "drop". Something that the system is perfectly capable of doing. Again, I'll say "It's the 21ST Century. I tend to doubt that many very successful Racers are picking a pole or flag to "drop" on.

Andys dad 12-27-2021 07:35 PM
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We have learned how to get the car to repeat within a hundredth of the prediction by using a self adjusting ECU tune depending on DA .. you need to use modern technology.

Good chassis design is key to consistency.

Tuneup is way more reliable method than counting or dropping. It does not "stretch" the rules.


Ron

Mark Yacavone 12-27-2021 08:44 PM
Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 654554)
What I'd like to know is how many Racers are actually "spot-dropping" and how many are using their ignition box, grid and data logger to determine an exact time and distance on the track to "drop". Something that the system is perfectly capable of doing. Again, I'll say "It's the 21ST Century. I tend to doubt that many very successful Racers are picking a pole or flag to "drop" on.
From what I heard thru the grapevine, ..easy enough to do . All starts with zero wheelspin..See my earlier post ;-)

Shadylane 12-27-2021 09:29 PM
Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 654554)
What I'd like to know is how many Racers are actually "spot-dropping" and how many are using their ignition box, grid and data logger to determine an exact time and distance on the track to "drop". Something that the system is perfectly capable of doing. Again, I'll say "It's the 21ST Century. I tend to doubt that many very successful Racers are picking a pole or flag to "drop" on.
You still have cut a light! But that’s a whole other story!

Tony Goodman 12-28-2021 07:05 AM
Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell
 
Get rid of blinders and brake pressure switches.

Todd Hoven 12-28-2021 12:39 PM
Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Goodman (Post 654575)
Get rid of blinders and brake pressure switches.
What is wrong with the blinders?


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