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Ben Holt 04-28-2025 02:39 PM

Re: And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was
 
Page XIX of the 2025 NHRA Rulebook

"How to Use This Rulebook"

"On the other hand, as to performance equipment, it is the
general rule that unless optional performance equipment or
performance-related modification is specifically permitted
by this Rulebook, it is prohibited. All model, engine, or
equipment changes or modifications not specifically
addressed in this Rulebook must be submitted in writing
to NHRA for consideration prior to competition. Approval
will be granted or denied in NHRA?s sole and absolute
discretion. The applicant will be notified of approval or
rejection in writing from NHRA headquarters."

Being that the beam splitter has a definitive purpose, and is not specified as legal in the Stock Eliminator rules, I would deem it illegal.

Cglrcng 04-28-2025 07:10 PM

Re: And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was
 
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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 711852)
Well ! ! ! 38 posts and not one ( 1 ) stinkin picture .........

Here you go Jack pics for you. During the fabrication of the item of controversy May 14, 2024 (flip the pics Attachment 72486

Attachment 72487

Attachment 72488

Attachment 72489

Attachment 72490over)...bracket, blade, bolts, nuts, and a safety tether for the blade.


Then 2 pics of it in use at a bracket race in November 2024. During full throttle attitude and with car at rest in the Winners Circle Photo same day. And use at bracket race Battle of the Brands March 2025. And 1 without it from Oct. 2023 and the actual 6 points I can use to break the 6" high beam at 1,320' depending on last move before the beam. Actually 6 points from front bumper point to tires (bumper, upper spoiler, lower spoiler, lower air dam, tires). Hard brakes to full throttle and all done with 2 feet.

With it on only 2 points...bumper on brakes or the beam breaker.

Attached not to the body in any manner (as I witnessed of many other body alterations to serve the same exact
purpose in both S/SS before taking the
step of adding the allowed device. But
added by adding 2 1/2 in bolts to the
frame member holding the front bumper
assembly, equal with the front of the
lower front spoiler, at least 2" behind the
front bumper, and 10" in front of the
lower rearward air dam mfg. attached
with 2 bolts and easily removed in 5 mins. The 6 points marked in the 1st photo (class win, without beam breaker), are feet apart from bumper to tires.

At this point I would rather leave us all guessing at which point I have total control of using to break the 1,320' beam 6" off the ground with. I only have control of the removal or use of mine, others using other forms and fashions (there are many), must be holding their breath right now. They are out there, and not just a few. People only saw mine because I did not customize or alter the actual body to achieve the same goal.
below the radiator support.

I used those particular pics as to show the attitude of the car at rest and at full throttle operation. The last move *without it present and attached*
determins which point of the car triggers
the 6" high beam break point...hard
brakes (but not smoking tires), and out
of throttle the bumper breaks the beam,
Out of throttle light to no brakes, the
spoiler breaks the beam, out of it late
the lower air dam breaks the beams,
dead in it, the tire breaks the beams.

Without it on, the track can be 4 different lengths...all my choices. With it on, hard brakes and out of it bumper only. And all other choices 2" back the beam breaker ended all timing. I have not touched the brake pedal but once since I put it on. Ask any of my competitors as many of them know I have broken out against a lot of them (both by tiny amounts and large amounts as wind affects the slower cars by a lot more than faster cars as we are just flat out in the wind longer, far too many and this deep dive has educated me I am far and away better off without the aid of the Still determined by NHRA and their rulebook "beam breaker" as described in G.R. 4.5.

Cglrcng 04-28-2025 07:31 PM

Re: And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was
 
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Without it in Oct. 2023 the 6 points marked w/ yellow numbers 1, 1.5, 2, 3, 4, and 5's. It can actually go faster on the brakes if chosen very late in the run.

And with it recently in March (bracket race).

Pete Lanciers 04-28-2025 08:37 PM

Re: And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Jordan (Post 711803)
Personally, I?m more concerned about mystery buttons in the interior and cars that stutter and break up in high gear while they miraculously run dead on the dial.

And that brother is an absolute NO ****TER!!!

Jared Jordan 04-28-2025 08:45 PM

Re: And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Lanciers (Post 711876)
And that brother is an absolute NO ****TER!!!

Until we all complain, en masse, to someone who ACTUALLY has the juice and the know how to both trace the issue and DQ those doing it, regardless of who’s behind them (sponsor, family, the right last name, etc), it’ll continue.

Frank Bialas 04-29-2025 10:59 AM

Re: And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cglrcng (Post 711828)
Who got the win on the slip Frank?

The camaro,I couldn't believe it , I knew it was close but I also knew that I was out front.What stinks is I was told to tuck my wire in that was for a parking lamp in my bumper!?!?

Barso1514 04-29-2025 03:38 PM

Re: And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Gullett (Post 711780)
Trust me. You couldn?t believe the comments at Vegas about this. He was allowed to run the national and Div race with it but before first round in S/SS cars were all checked for blinders.

Well that?s because there?s a video from a national event winner using a blocker last year

Casey Miles 04-29-2025 04:35 PM

Re: And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was
 
I had a beam breaker on my 01 Corvette in no box bracket racing. If I knew or thought it was legal in Stock, it would've been on my 69 Camaro back then in 2001. The way I understood the rule is
that it was not allowed in Stock. I guess I'll be putting one on if NHRA gives it's blessing. This will be one more reason Stock isn't Stock anylonger!
Casey Miles
248H Stock

Bhooper3352 04-29-2025 09:56 PM

Re: And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was
 
Most cars that run an air dam from the factory can take stripe with the nose by hitting the brakes or lifting. Going up against it is a disadvantage and having a car that has it is a disadvantage. When you dont know what takes stripe on your/ opponents car it makes it hard to judge the finish line accurately.

ProfessorRock 04-30-2025 04:20 PM

Re: And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was
 
SOOOO i am going to suggest 2 new classes/ elims.
A. Competition Stock and Superstock. first to break the beams.
But if you go more than 1.3 under then you get penalized like Comp.
NOBODY gets a trophy " Walter". Only money or gift card.

B. Vintage Stock/Superstock Run off of records after new records are set.
1970 Rulebook - Carbs only. Records verified by teardown by an elected
team of 3 current racers in ea.Elim. Rotated periodically, and overseen by NHRA tech officials. Trophys that mean something and contingency $$

Damn i just woke up . I must have been Dreaming


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