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Alan Roehrich 07-12-2010 09:15 PM

Re: "Live" from the Western Swing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Stubbs (Post 197866)
You are correct Alan, it would have already been official (states in the AHFS that immediate hp change will be in effect on the Monday or Tuesday following the race), that race was the first of May.....But it was definately over 1.25 under. Funny how the LS1 stick got 12 instant HP for going less under.


Actually, it was a 10.207 on an 11.25 sea level index, that's 1.043 under. Racers that run the Boise race say the indexes are over adjusted, the track is about 0.22-0.25 slow, and they added 0.37 to the index. In any event, you have to run 1.25 under the sea level index. If they aren't correcting the local weather to a sea level standard, then it's a good rule, too.

K Stubbs 07-12-2010 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 197873)
Actually, it was a 10.207 on an 11.25 sea level index, that's 1.043 under. Racers that run the Boise race say the indexes are over adjusted, the track is about 0.22-0.25 slow, and they added 0.37 to the index. In any event, you have to run 1.25 under the sea level index. If they aren't correcting the local weather to a sea level standard, then it's a good rule, too.

Im confused, if you have to run 1.25 under the sea level index, how did the LS1 get the HP from a run of 10.439 in B/S? Yes I am aware this was 1.34 under at a factored track.

Larry Hill 07-12-2010 09:42 PM

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We're here!

More later.

Alan Roehrich 07-12-2010 09:50 PM

Re: "Live" from the Western Swing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Stubbs (Post 197878)
Im confused, if you have to run 1.25 under the sea level index, how did the LS1 get the HP from a run of 10.439 in B/S? Yes I am aware this was 1.34 under at a factored track.

I have not actually seen the ET and conditions from the LS1 run in question, I can't say. Call your NHRA Tech person, and have the run information in hand, they'll explain it. Or you can call Glendora and ask for a clarification.

K Stubbs 07-12-2010 09:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 197883)
I have not actually seen the ET and conditions from the LS1 run in question, I can't say. Call your NHRA Tech person, and have the run information in hand, they'll explain it. Or you can call Glendora and ask for a clarification.

I did, today, and the answer I received was "any run of 1.25 under the index or more receives instant HP, regardless of where its at". It was the run I just stated, he informed me of this, which I had already assumed. My question is, how did this combo get it and others did not?

Sean Cour 07-12-2010 10:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Stubbs (Post 197885)
I did, today, and the answer I received was "any run of 1.25 under the index or more receives instant HP, regardless of where its at". It was the run I just stated, he informed me of this, which I had already assumed. My question is, how did this combo get it and others did not?

Word from Brian McClanahan, and NHRA officials at Seattle, was that NHRA will be retroactively hitting the combo's from all runs of 1.25 or more under any index. In other words, Boise and Denver will also be counted.

K Stubbs 07-12-2010 10:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 197890)
Word from Brian McClanahan, and NHRA officials at Seattle, was that NHRA will be retroactively hitting the combo's from all runs of 1.25 or more under any index. In other words, Boise and Denver will also be counted.

I was under the impression that this rule was already in effect, it does state this under the guidelines for the AHFS, that it includes sea level tracks, which was inserted when the indexes were dropped three tenths. I am not saying that the run didnt deserve the hp, according to the "system", it did trigger the instant hp, but so have others that didnt get the hp. Thats my confusion. I was also told by a tech person that the person in charge of the AHFS could "change the rules anytime he wanted." This seems unfair to me.

Larry Hill 07-12-2010 10:29 PM

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Well we are stacked. If anybody is like us and haven't been here before, go past Gate 1 all the way down to Gate 7. Then you climb the hill to a fabulous view at the top. It looks like Mike and Paula are "King and Queen of the Hill". It looked like their rig parked on top. Hey,Mike and Paula, if you are here in stacking come on down. We just got a bite of supper and are going out for a walk and see if we can find anybody we know.

It is really cool and windy.

John Kelley 07-12-2010 10:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 197894)
It is really cool and windy.

It does that at Sears Point when the sun starts going down.....

Larry Hill 07-12-2010 11:07 PM

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Well the rig we saw was not the Cotten's. They are still here 1st in line. We walked up there and Macy let us know she was there.

They did not give us a number when we came in, but there appear to be 30-40 rigs in line.

Well it is dark now, so off to bed for us.

More tomorrow.

Patsy

M Cotten 07-12-2010 11:44 PM

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Glad you are here. Come see us in the morning. We have been on wine tours all day. We started withe champagne at 10am, breakfast of champions.

Tony Janes 07-13-2010 08:17 AM

Re: "Live" from the Western Swing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Stubbs (Post 197866)
You are correct Alan, it would have already been official (states in the AHFS that immediate hp change will be in effect on the Monday or Tuesday following the race), that race was the first of May.....But it was definately over 1.25 under. Funny how the LS1 stick got 12 instant HP for going less under.

June 12 Fallon Final Stock Brian McClanahan 10.439 on an altitude index of 11.78 B/S, this is 1.341 under. The change was made on Tuesday June 15 2010. We will have to see if NHRA goes back to January and makes changes for all runs over 1.25 at altitude strips..

Floyd Staggs 07-13-2010 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 197945)
June 12 Fallon Final Stock Brian McClanahan 10.439 on an altitude index of 11.78 B/S, this is 1.341 under. The change was made on Tuesday June 15 2010. We will have to see if NHRA goes back to January and makes changes for all runs over 1.25 at altitude strips..

Must have been downhill with a tailwind. LOL.

Larry Hill 07-13-2010 11:27 AM

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Well it is overcast and cool this morning. We are going out to tour some winerys with Mike and Paula, so I will have more this evening. I have a few pics from the trip down from Seattle. Most were taken out the window, but it is still a very pretty drive.http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/005-17.jpg
Southern Washington
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/007-16.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/013-15.jpg
Oregon

Larry Hill 07-13-2010 11:33 AM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/017-11.jpg
Oregon
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/018-12.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/020-9.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/025-9.jpg
The food inspection station as you come in to California. Larry made me give all our fruits and vegetables to my cousin in Portland and then all they did was ask if we had any and they just waved us thru.

Larry Hill 07-13-2010 11:39 AM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/029-4.jpg
Northern California
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/038-4.jpg
Mt. Shasta as seen from the rest area in Weed, CA
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/040-3.jpg
Looking the other direction from the same rest area.http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/049-1.jpg
Lake Shasta

Chris Hill 07-13-2010 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 197989)
The food inspection station as you come in to California. Larry made me give all our fruits and vegetables to my cousin in Portland

I figured the inspection station would be to KEEP all the "fruits and nuts" inside California. I hear a large amount live in the San Fransisco area.

DemonChick 07-13-2010 12:42 PM

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Larry & Patsy....it was so nice to meet you at Pacific Raceway. We are happy you enjoyed the Tiki party and engine blender, it was a great time had by all.
I emailed photos to you, to the address on your business card, of what I had took of you two while at Pacific Raceway.

Enjoy the rest of your western swing and GOOD LUCK!!
Always look forward to reading your blogs, no matter where you are "live" from!!

Your new friends
Dave & Vicki
Brad & Fran
Phil & Kelly
Terry & Becky

ron mattson 07-13-2010 02:31 PM

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Your reports are the best keep em coming, like being there for those of us who cant be!!!!

Larry Hill 07-13-2010 04:46 PM

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Well, just got back from a wine tour. Have some pics I will post later. There are another couple of rows of trailers here now.
Here are more pics from the drive down yesterday.



http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/050-1.jpg
Fields of sunflowers. I guess that is where those little bags of sunflower seeds come from!

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/052-1.jpg
These are the beautiful flowers in the medians of the interstates.

DemonChick 07-13-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 197238)
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/014-13.jpg
More shots of the blender
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/012-15.jpg
Jennifer McCormack--they made Dreamsicles equal to yours!
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/010-15.jpg
They had real palm trees and monkeys and flamingos.
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/009-15.jpg
Neatest little camper. This is the kitchen. Replica of a model made in 1949


I found a video of that BBC blender on You Tube.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_5SwkuxB2k

Enjoy your CA time!!

Larry Hill 07-13-2010 05:14 PM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/013-16.jpg
Here are the lawnmowers at work here at the track.
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/001-19.jpg
Mike and Paula Cotten this morning after breakfast at the Big Bear Restaurant. Great food!

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/003-18.jpg
Us in front of the winery Domaine Carneros.

K Stubbs 07-13-2010 07:46 PM

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[QUOTE=Tony Janes;197945]June 12 Fallon Final Stock Brian McClanahan 10.439 on an altitude index of 11.78 B/S, this is 1.341 under. The change was made on Tuesday June 15 2010. We will have to see if NHRA goes back to January and makes changes for all runs over 1.25 at altitude strips..[/QUOTE


Exactly my point Tony.

Larry Hill 07-13-2010 11:03 PM

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We have had a wonderful time today seeing the countryside with Mike and Paula. We took a great tour of the winery, then tonight went to downtown Sonoma where they were having a farmers market on the town square. We ate a great Mexican restaurant called Maya on the corner of the square. Here are some pics:
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/021-11.jpg
This is a shot of the track looking down from the top.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/018-13.jpg
Mike and Paula after a couple of margeritas.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/015-15.jpg
Larry in downtown Sonoma.

Larry Hill 07-13-2010 11:08 PM

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More pics at the winery:

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/004-19.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/005-18.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/007-17.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/008-18.jpg
Mike mixing his own blend.

Larry Hill 07-13-2010 11:10 PM

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Well they are supposed to start parking us about noon tomorrow, so I will try to get pix of cars after everyone unloads.

This is a great vacation!!!

TOM KASCH 07-14-2010 04:38 AM

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Sure looks like it !
To bad you cann't take more time between races, after you get home you'll say " Why didn't we take our time".
But what a trip !
Good luck ..........
Please say "Hello" to Mike from me.

Larry Hill 07-14-2010 02:52 PM

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Well we are in and parked. They actually started parking around 11. We have a decent spot across from Mike and Paula. We are on the right side of the track on past the scoreboards. So come on down to see us. Looks like most of the sportsmen are being parked up on the hill on the left side of the track. We haven't unloaded the golf cart yet. After we do, I will go scouting.

K Stubbs 07-14-2010 04:12 PM

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Awesome pics, awesome post!!!

Greg Hill 07-14-2010 04:13 PM

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Larry and Patsy you guys are in a beautiful part of the country. Alice and I spent two nights of our honeymoon at the Sonoma Mission Inn In Sonoma. We toured wineries and ate great food while we were there. You probably won't have a chance to go up the Napa Valley but it's also beautiful. I wish you had more time to spend because San Francisco is a wonderful city and The Monterey peninsula and Carmel are really nice too. To say nothing for the Big Sur area which is amazing. You would almost be better off staying out there and forgetting about Denver.

Don't come home it's hot and humid.

NewHemi 07-14-2010 10:11 PM

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What a great thread, and as usual from the Hill's, lots of great pictures.

Almost lets us feel as though we were out there too.

Maybe we will get to see you at Mile High, if we get there.....

Anyway, thanks again for all of the great info and pcis. You guys are great. So be safe, have fun and just keep winning!

David
The New Hemi Guy

Larry Hill 07-14-2010 11:48 PM

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We have been gone this evening to visit some friends who live in Oakland. We ate a great place called Townhouse in Berkley. Just got back to the track where it is very cool and windy. We will go out and see everything tomorrow and let you know who's here. I see Toby is posting from here, too, so I'm sure he will have lots of pics, too.

Barry Polley 07-15-2010 10:21 AM

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Larry, bringing by a couple of Susuin Valley wines for you folks and to say hello.

Barry

Larry Hill 07-15-2010 10:50 AM

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Barry, we are looking forward to meeting you. We are on the right side of the track past comp and top sportsman.

Greg, You can keep that weather back home, although it seems like we have taken hot weather with us. I think it is supposed to be pretty warm today. Right now it is a beautiful blue sky with a breeze.

Larry has gone done to tech in now. We will try to get out and get some pics soon.

Larry Hill 07-15-2010 11:08 AM

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I can't remember if I told ya'll this while we were in Seattle, but when we left home, we forgot our California Car Duster. So we had to buy a new one on our way. This time we bought a purple one. It doesn't clash with the pink car the way the red one did. Anyway, we were telling Mr. Defrank that we had bought a new one, and he gave Larry one of their new products to try. It is called Quick Shine and it works really well. You spray it on (or on a microfiber towel) and wipe it off and your car is nice and shiny again. "Try it, you'll like it."

Larry Hill 07-15-2010 05:20 PM

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Here are some pics from tech this morning:
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/004-20.jpg
Chuck Rayburn I/SA

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/005-19.jpg
Bob Elliott K/SA

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/006-19.jpg
John Calvert SS/G
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/007-18.jpg
John Calvert Jr. AA/S

Larry Hill 07-15-2010 05:28 PM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/008-19.jpg
BOB ACEVES E/SA

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/009-18.jpg
TOM ARMANINO SS/IA

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/011-18.jpg
STEVE HANBY SS/JA

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/012-18.jpg
MARK LEICHOOK D/SA

Larry Hill 07-15-2010 05:33 PM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/013-17.jpg
BOB BEALS N/SA

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/003-19.jpg
PAULA COTTEN G/SA

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/010-18.jpg
MIKE COTTEN SS/JA

Larry Hill 07-15-2010 05:39 PM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/014-16.jpg
MIKE & BJ GRAHAM GT/FA

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/015-16.jpg
RICK PATON SS/AS

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/016-15.jpg
ROBBIE IRVING H/SA

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...ket/017-13.jpg
JIM SHERRY & CREW CHIEF BOB GT/EA

Larry Hill 07-15-2010 10:53 PM

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It is really cool here tonight. We just went up to the top of the track and took some pics overlooking the track one direction and the Bay the other.
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/034-5.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/037-5.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/036-5.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/034-5.jpg


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