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Billy, I wouldn't listen to anyone that would race a Gremlin when it comes to combinations.
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Matt Steen runs the 273/235/210 in a SS/K '66 Valiant (but at 230 in SS), not sure but I think Angela Bushmaker and Paul Wong run it in Valiant stockers. |
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I saw pics of all those cars, Matt's looks insane running high 10's with that combo. I just wondered if this combo could get under the index easy enough without breaking the bank too badly. They do allow the closed heart shaped chamber heads for this combo just like the ones Steen uses. Not sure if this heads flow well enough or if the carb used on it is any good either. I've seen that with Angela's and probably Paul's combo they are allowed to run an approved Edelbrock aluminum intake but it doesn't appear the same could be said with the combo i mentioned. Looks like only the stock one is allowed. Lots of great combo ideas in this post, makes ya want to start scrounging the internet looking for these cars, lol. |
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Could a mid - seventies Olds Omega with the 260 V8 be competitive in U/SA ?? Billy ? Mark ? Dwight ?
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In 77 I put a 240 in my 67 custom 500 2dr post, 5.14 gear, A1 converter, Clifford research hedders, Lunati cam, etc. I was never really able to get a handle on it though and I spent a bunch of money. I do think the potential is there, but not cheap. |
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I worked for GM back in the Seventies and early eighties. Don't remember the dual jet on any GM motors until '79 and later. I thought the '75 thru "78 models used the 2GC . I particularly remember the difference in power between the '78 models vs. the '79 when the carbs changed on the 305-2V. Could the 260 Olds have had a dual-jet as far back as '75 ? Thanks, Joe |
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Thanks for the reply. I really missed that one ! I was probably one those who thought it was a Q-Jet ! Been looking for a '75 Nova for Mike Moller to put my 262 from the Monza in to run in U. Has been hard to come by so far. One salvage yard I stopped at said to me, " finding one of those Novas in decent shape is like looking for a gold mine ! " - Joe |
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http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/2449834045.html http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/2435197476.html http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/2482824541.html |
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Any thoughts on a 03 Lincoln town car? 4.6 V8 if I read the classification guide right, and I never do, is rated at 210 HP and 3902 pounds= 18.58
R stock @13.95? Add weight to T at 14.40? |
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I never found where the 2003 Lincoln is listed, so I don't believe it is eligible. All I saw eligble from FoMoCo for 2003 was the Mustang. Strangely tho, a 1991-1992 E-150 van is eligible .....lol Even more strange....a 97 Taurus wagon with the 3.0 ohv is eligible. edit: I found 1995 Town Car rated at 210 hp. wt/hp ratio is 18.46....18.54.....and 19.03. Take your pic. |
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Can anyone tell me what the natural class a 16.52 lbs/hp car falls into ?
And, what is the next slower class down is ? Is it 17.0 or 17.5 lbs/hp ? I don't have an NHRA rulebook. I found the 91 Lincoln MKVII is eligible and it uses the Mustang 5.0 engine. |
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I see a 1995 Town Car Cartier could technically run U/SA......hmmm...... |
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The question I have is the 4.6 capable of making this 3800 lb behemoth run under the index. I can get the car for nothing or next to it... What would it take to get under index. Gears, convertor... WHere would you get some headers ? |
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Any of the guys that build headers, even Billy could do it ! But they will need the car to do the job.
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Your 94 could run : ......Q/SA @ 3570 w/driver. Or, R/SA @ 3780 ( natural class) Or, T/SA @ 3990 lbs. This engine has me wondering. I saw another thread about the 96-98 Mustang GT and I do not know the differnce between the 94 Lincoln 4.6 and the 96-98 Mustang 4.6. Anyway, the concensus of the thread was that the 96-98 Mustang makes a good Pure Stocker. Not sure about an NHRA Stocker tho. Not sure on this, but I was thinking the '90-99 Town Car was based on the Panther chassis. (Crown Vic) If so, then there is where you would look for headers. |
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As my partner Tod says, "we can probably get the car for next to nothing". If we can't do anything with it. I'll just strip it out and sell the shell for scrap. Yeah, it would at the least need headers, a converter and a posi unit and some gear. I have a set of wheels, just need a set of front tires and a set of slicks. If we end up with it, probably just do a simple tune up on it, check over for safety, brakes and such. Just take it to one of the local strips, see just how far off it is. I'll take it somewhere and weigh it first. Give me an idea of what we're up against. |
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I knew the Town car was not a good choice for IHRA Pure Stock. As an NHRA Stocker or IHRA EFI Stocker I would think the TCar would need a 4.56 gear, a 4000 + stall , lightweight wheels/tires, lightweight brake rotors, electric fans, and special long duration cams. I would say that 2V could rev, so that would be the key. You ought to try the combo and let us all know if the car gets close to the index. :) |
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Looks like a few of you have done some detective work on this Lincoln and I'd say "Go for it!". It really can't be a bad combo, if it fits T it should run the index. How fast will a Pure Stock Mustang go?
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Billy, Hinges on how little we can get the car for. Have to chuckle a little here, just never thought of a 4 door Lincoln as a "race car"! If we do this, correct me if my initial thinking is wrong. I figure the minimum I need to run the car, headers, I haven't researched this at all. Does anyone make headers for a Lincoln? Get a posi unit, if the car doesn't have one, or a mini-spool. A gear set, this has an 8.8, as suggested by Almack, a 4:88 or deeper gear, suggestions for a 4000 lb car? As mentioned, I have a set of wheels. Anyone in the Indiana-Kentucky-Ohio area got any old used fronts or slicks with some life left in them that you don't want to retire off of, LOL!That'd be enough for me to take it to the track. |
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The ECU and the AODE will be just fine with a Tweecer. This is an adjustable chip of sorts that plugs into the factory ECU and changes the factory tune up. Does everything a FAST or other after EFI control would do plus change your WOT shift points. I have run one in my car since the beginning. I had a few issues with it but they (slowly) made the repairs and treated my fairly. Adding fuel to create a 13.0 AFR and firming up the shifts points (I ran the AODE in drive) equaled a .70 et improvement. All this on a 130,000 mile 5.0 that I never had the heads off of.
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Do you think dragging around 2 tons,especially after spending a bunch on custom headers for this tank would qualify for a "dime rocket"?
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Does this car qualify:
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Small valve 318, P/Stock stick!
As The Stray Cats said " Rev it up and go" |
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Alex ,Now why are you starting out whacking on the Cadiliac combo from the git-go , Build you one of those Lincolon Continintal set-ups they are every bit as soft from the start,,,,,,,,, Dunlap -Murphy SS-GTMA yey it,s a OLDSMO_LAC,,,,,,:cool:
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Love it!!!
How about a 78 T-Bird, 400? There is alot of potential lurking in a 400, cleveland-type heads, C6 and a 9", a ton of torque, and easy as heck to find? I'm being pointed towards a 460-powered 74 Torino, but the 'Bird popped out at me. |
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