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Wow Mickey! Now the amount of bling that you have will qualify you to post on this thread. Never really played well with others did you? Apparently you don't like sharing your sandbox. And now you're talking about how you can't fix stupid? You are a classy Class Racer there Mickey . By the way, you can count me in for three of the little gold men. And no, none of them were in s/ss.

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Why are you on here then ? and I can triple those gold men and 5 div champs and 10 times in the top 10 national 14 natl event finals and I ran j/sa automatic on 2 of those div championships and got spotted way more than less you don't have a clue who you are talking to and if you want to talk bracket racing cant remember how many times I have won you can ask anyone about me! and as far as the dumb azz sandbox reply my monkey will leave you a surprise

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Why am I on here you ask..............100% for the entertainment value. Your trophies and championships are amazing. I'm so jealous. You should do day time talk shows, maybe Dr Phil.
We all use shoe polish, we all race with a dial in, the slow car always leaves first and the fast one will always chase. Everyone in an 11 second and slower car will want TS and faster boys will not. The shame is that those faster boyz really don't have a clue what TS is or why they don't want it.
Your better rest now. Don't want your BP to get too high.

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And all this means what? You opinion carries more weight now? The debate was good but now it's about personal accomplishments. So much for constructive discussion. You win. Congrats

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You should be I will let my monkey protect your great wall he will be looking over you just took a drink bp down I can be on DR Phil he thought your nickname was PHIL that is what they said anyway

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I was ask the bling that I bring and I told it so the hell with you what do you bring and by the way what class do you run would like to check your stocker o ss stock out

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Your are amazing Mickey...................I agree with Jeff Stout.............you are too badass for all the peons that frequent this forum. I think Ken should make you the PR rep for Classracer. You could have your own podium and microphone. Probably be a bit easier for you that way as your punctuation and grammar suck. Sure hope this true start deal works out for you in 2017...........................Merry Christmas and watch the blood pressure.

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Didn't see the question asked about your bling. You brought the question up about who won what do you know who your talking to. Nobody asked about your accomplishments. Doesn't matter who what our when I race as it has nothing to do with topic. I stated my position without credentials.

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Oh my you must have gone to a private school but you could still read what I said if you come to the east coast come see me and we can talk no keyboard **** and merry Christmas to you also let me know if I spelled something wrong

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Mickey, cut these dopes loose! Most of them aren't racers so don't waste your time.

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right here stout

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you are right bruce bottom feeders that I cant get my hands on

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I'm far from the punctuation police but I think it was statement not a question. Missing question mark. Again it has nothing to do with the topic.

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I'm with bruce and still what class do you run??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?

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Why? Need a autograph? I'm racing a heads up no prep in Tucson next weekend. Tru start is activated as worst red light will be a loser in this heads up event. Wait for it. ..3,2,1 yes I know we leave at the same time so worst red light will be displayed. Amazing how its a rule with cars leaving together yet not a rule when cars leave at different times

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DONE for now bruce just saw the truth

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Then, Einstein, you should learn to spell Tru-Start correctly.

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Mickey Mickey you so fine ! Some people you just can't reach iF He likes true start so much he Should grow a pair enterThe Spring Fling. Bet he won't

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Exactly

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Been there done that in vegas. Hope that helps in the discussion. Thanks for asking as I clank when I walk. Lol

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Wow check it out, shift change!! You guys the B team?? I'm kind of done with this and besides you guys aren't nearly as fun as Mickey is.

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My Wallys all just told me to stay outta this one for a while. But they're pretty old Wallys, do they still count?

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So no one is really going to know what kind of light they just cut? The yellow just hangs whether it's green or red?

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The light will go green and change if there is a problem with 2 red lights. You will still get a reaction time.

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Sorry Billy for getting off track. It became silly. I was answering the non productive questions. I know I cant sway anyone to change their minds. Just voicing my opinion and reasoning for my opinion while others deflect. Meant no harm to anyone on this thread.

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Yes William, I would think they count alot more because you leave first. Thanks also to Alan Freese for putting this topic in perspective. Now if they would take Jim Bailey's suggestion (1 inch diameter fuel line for the fuel cars) all cars could run quarter mile again, what a radical concept.

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Geez. I never thought a round of eliminations between Jody and me would turn into quite the discussion! LOL

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This is funny, folks are sure thy don't want it but not sure how it works.

Let's face it, most fast dial cars will not want it, slower dial cars will want it. Personal agenda at work, then the insults, tantrums, stomping feet, etc.

Kyle and Peter came up with it, they need not show a resume to justify anything.

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Geez...just got home and thought I had clicked on Yellow Bullet lol! :p

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This is kinda what I'm thinkin'.
If it happens or it doesn't, it won't change what, where or when I race.

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Wow full contact keyboards, this is WAY better than full contact golf.

"never argue with a fool, some people can't tell the difference"

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Everybody is a fool and everybody is a genius just depends on what you want but the short bus does run every week for the fools

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And now comes the opinion of a slow car driver's view of this situation.

First of all I see that I should have some sort of credibility to enter into this fray.
I have never won a national event. I have several class wins, most against some guy named Bye. I have one Indy class win as the number 96 qualifier in a 96 car field. I have stayed at a Holiday Inn. I am usually in the first three pair at 8:00 AM looking into the sun. I know the weather better than most of the people in the lanes. I've been a tech guy and have raced since 1968. I have been racing Stock in U/SA since 1988. I can run the 100 yard dash in over 16 seconds. I hope this satisfies you all as far as credibility.

I leave first just about all the time. I have left second only twice since 1988. Other than those two times I have always had a clean tree. I usually can tell if it is a good, average or bad light when I leave. If I go red, I usually hit the steering wheel and say something like damn it. Then I continue down the track, wide open to see what I will run, knowing that it will be dead on due to the red light. If my opponent goes red, it just frustrates me just a little bit, but I know that they were just taking a free shot at the tree as they already have won.

If I go green, along with my usually huge head start, it put way more pressure on who I am racing. I know that they say they pay attention to their side of the tree, being totally focused, but they still see me leave through peripheral vision and know if it was a good light or not, but they know it is green which is a lot of pressure. They also see how far out I am when the tree comes down on their side which adds more pressure. If they go red it is usually ridiculous red, like their foot took control of their brain.

For me it doesn't really matter if they implement the rule. I will always have my advantages in place. Like Billy said, what, where or when. But some of you all on here need to calm down a little bit. Your letting thing get out of control like people did in this recent election.

I can only see this rule being really effective in close races where dial ins are within a tree span. In my situation with a clean tree, if you go red after I go red, what the heck were you thinking.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA P R E S S U R E

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If I understand correctly Ron neither of you would know if you went red until both had left.

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Damn ron why did you wait since 1968 that beef jerkey is good

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“… just taking a free shot at the tree…”

No one should ever have a free shot at the tree. Everyone should always have to take a shot at the tree and be exposed to foul starting. (Of course, except for a bye-single run. Go ahead and foul start all you wish.)

“…if you go red after I go red, what the heck were you thinking.”

That only applied if they knew you fouled BEFORE they left. Now, with this corrected system, they will NOT know you fouled, until AFTER they left. Their light will finally be an honest light.

(Stated with great respect for anyone with knowledge of a Stromberg product.)

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Bunkster, I kind of know how it works and understand that it would be in my favor in those situations. Only drawback I see is now after I leave, I have to wait about 2-6 seconds to find out if I didn't go red. I usually like to watch my opponent in the rear view mirror to see if they go red and to watch the cool wheel stands when they leave, now this is going to interfere with my entertainment thought process. So, basically, now I have more anxiety to endure while launching and having to wait to see if I did good or not, instead of trying to recognize fans in the stands or checking my e-mails.

Appreciate the Stromberg comment, only thing is, that the only thing I know about them is that they are about a tenth faster than my Ball &Ball carb. Wish I could use one, but NHRA says no, but it is OK for me to get factored when they do. Now that I think about it, yes, I am in favor of Tru-Start.

And as soon as the no tech rule goes into effect, I'll install that NO2 system to keep up with them FFFFords.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA they're taking all the fun out.

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A friend told me about the new "tech yourself" system. Think that is for real? Are they doing away with heads-ups as well?