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Liteweight 01-21-2013 09:43 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Yup, real car. It came out of the same dealership "WildFire" came out of, Town & Country Dodge. The Smith car ran out of Detroit Dragways

liteweight

Paul Ceasrine 01-25-2013 04:44 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Correct on Dick Smith.

Dick Smith and the Hemi Dart were at the 1968 Super Stock Magazine Nationals at New York National Speedway in 1968.

Dick also ran a 1965 Coronet 426 Hemi 'Fuel Injected' AWB car at Detroit Dragway in 1966 and 1967.

'FIREBREWED'

Dick was an AHRA-contract racer (ie; Detroit Dragway and New York National Speedway).

Here is 'FIREBREWED' in 1967.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/...67d45884f7.jpg

Liteweight 01-25-2013 04:57 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Paul
is this the same car

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psa017c905.jpg

or is this it
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps531096d5.jpg

liteweight

Paul Ceasrine 01-25-2013 08:11 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
On the other side of the ex-Carmine Rotunda Corvette.

'Cookie Duster' 68' Hemi Dart

This photo is from 1970.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...0&d=1306808612

Steve Stasko 01-25-2013 10:12 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Ron Mancini got his Hemi Dart from Gil Clark in 1969. That car became the Irish Rover, as pictured above.

The yellow Dart pictured above, was owned by Lou Mancini in the late-70's, and was the subject of a magazine article (Car Craft?). That car was originally Charlie Lendrum's if I remember correctly? I know the car came out of central PA, went to Western PA (Car of the Rising Sun), back to central PA (Where Tom Hoover found it), and then to Lou Mancini in Michigan.

Paul Ceasrine 01-26-2013 09:19 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Correct,

Ron Mancini bought Gil Clark's Hemi Dart.

Both Gil Clark (Toronto) and Dick Smith (Detroit) were AHRA-contract racers in 1968.

Paul Ceasrine 01-30-2013 12:22 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
John DeRosa out of Maryland (An Original SS/BA)

http://goautotools.com/images/myzuhema.jpg

Liteweight 01-30-2013 12:59 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps673a31a1.jpg

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Charlie A 01-30-2013 01:50 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Indoor Invader:

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1627/invaderh.jpg

Liteweight 01-30-2013 03:18 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
This car is probably the most untouched example of a LO car you will ever see.
kinda funky looking trackbars?? tho.
liteweight

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6faeeb4e.jpg

Charlie A 01-30-2013 11:20 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
In 69 or 70, I bought a 57 Bel Air 2 door htp with a set of traction bars like that.
The mounts were welded to the axle and rear frame rails.
Square tube steel on bushings / bolts and washers hanging from mount to mount.
Noisy and rattling but when you dump the clutch, it pulled the rearend of the car down for weight transfer.
Guess they outlawed them for some reason.

Charlie A 02-01-2013 08:54 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
So, first Joe Ralph Thompson:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1230728498

Then Joe Tueton.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...7mxA3SwJ8nUGMA

Does that make this one the "JT" Dart?

jimi 02-01-2013 10:43 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
liteweight i think the traction bars were called that a leaf link?????

ww63 02-01-2013 02:13 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
one and the same
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 367385)
So, first Joe Ralph Thompson:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1230728498

Then Joe Tueton.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...7mxA3SwJ8nUGMA

Does that make this one the "JT" Dart?


Liteweight 02-01-2013 03:17 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimi (Post 367397)
liteweight i think the traction bars were called that a leaf link?????

Jimi That setup is different
I believe the leaf link was developed by the boys involved with the Motown Missile P/S projects. I think the first one was installed in the 70 Challenger.
If I remember the design correctly, basically the front spring segment was clamped together solid, & everything behind the axle was left unclamped. The clamps make the front of the springs a "solid lower link". There was a housing floater (so the housing floats on the spring) and a top link from a "four link" for location.

liteweight

Charlie A 02-01-2013 03:39 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Don't remember if this has been here or not. Link to a book "Maximum Performance" with some Dart and Barracuda info and pics.

http://books.google.com/books?id=l3D...0built&f=false

Paul Ceasrine 02-02-2013 03:43 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Billy 'Billy the Kid' Stepp (Dayton, Ohio).............One of his 'two' 'SS/B' BO29 cars.

http://www.prostockhemi.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2


Herb McCandless drove this 1968 BO29 'A/MP' car to the 1970 Gatornationals Modified Production Championship.

http://www.prostockhemi.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Later, in 1971 the other BO29 was classed in B/MP

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/...1&d=1265255607

68hemiss 02-03-2013 12:04 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
The Canned Heat Dart was Lou Biggs of southern IL - not a real car but raced AHRA for a number of years - this is the first color pic I have seen of the car - I have a B&W one with a different paint scheme.
Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

Charlie A 02-04-2013 09:28 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ww63 (Post 367420)
one and the same

So, did the JRT Dart that became the JT Dart become the Cajun Flyer?

http://www.meyerfamilyracing.us/03US...tsmop%2010.jpg


The one said to be in Kansas, that we would all love to see a recent picture of.

a990hemi 02-04-2013 02:42 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I finally found the January 2004 Mopar Collector's Guide that featured a story about a street racer who totalled out one of Max Hurley's original Hurst Hemi Darts.
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...psbce21055.jpg

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...psc91f4c1e.jpg

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps0b4a98b4.jpg

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...psad0c476f.jpg

a990hemi 02-04-2013 02:53 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps27b7f569.jpg

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...psdf1cb59b.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...psfd404640.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps8b798864.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps18f64dfa.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps2b620a29.jpghttp://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...psa55aab36.jpghttp://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...psfd9fe97b.jpg

a990hemi 02-04-2013 02:58 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
This Dart had an automatic transmission in it at the time of the street wreck but the article does not state whether it was originally built as an automatic car or not.

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps31ad46a2.jpg

Liteweight 02-04-2013 04:08 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Thanx for that Scott
I have that issue "somewhere". Bet there were alot of parts that went with the car when it was scrapped that are considered gold today, such as radio, heater delete plates, mirror delete, etc.etc......
No doubt in my mind that roll bar saved his hiney. That's one f'd up LO.
Did Max Hurley purchase this one new?

liteweight

ps Welcome back Mark
pss That last question is for you.

Charlie A 02-04-2013 06:12 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
This one became (I think someone previously stated) one of the two below.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...cxZ0VLmogCRzjf

So, which is the missing Dart?

This one?

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/9938/1...earlyprost.jpg

or this one?
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...prisesDart.jpg

Charlie A 02-04-2013 07:00 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Cool in black & white:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/dc426/tht3.jpg

Charlie A 02-05-2013 06:44 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a990hemi (Post 367778)
This Dart had an automatic transmission in it at the time of the street wreck but the article does not state whether it was originally built as an automatic car or not.

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps31ad46a2.jpg

Per Draglist: Max Hurley 68 Hemi Dart was a 4 speed. On the original LO23 owners list posted in this topic (page 137) it states #22 Max Hurley - 4 speed SS/B.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...7ZN2d17W-jm6lw

killintime6968 02-06-2013 01:21 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
2 Attachment(s)
I'm not sure if these cars have been shown before

Geerhead55 02-06-2013 01:35 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by killintime6968 (Post 368013)
I'm not sure if these cars have been shown before

Yeah,,, the "Old Trapper" has been shown,,,, I believe post #s 2089 and 2091,,, not that far back,, but thanks for posting.
Danny Durham

killintime6968 02-06-2013 02:18 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Has there been any pictures of Harold Didlucks dart that was in SSDI in 1989

killintime6968 02-06-2013 02:30 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
1 Attachment(s)
Didluck's dart

Charlie A 02-06-2013 08:45 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Can't read the print. Does it say who the original owner was?

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...5&d=1360132152

Charlie A 02-06-2013 10:47 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Found this stray in a search I was doing.

Anyone know it?

http://musclecarcalendar.com/FF64II.jpg

bigsixman 02-06-2013 11:51 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 368044)
Found this stray in a search I was doing.

Anyone know it?

http://musclecarcalendar.com/FF64II.jpg

It appears to be the car that was at the Mopar show near Minneapolis that was restored by the resto shop in Chippewa Falls WI. I do not remember if it was an original or not, but it was extremely well done.

FED 387 02-06-2013 11:59 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
according to post and pics on post #658 Harold's car is Dick Panter's car---- Right???

Liteweight 02-06-2013 12:06 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 368044)
Found this stray in a search I was doing.

Anyone know it?

http://musclecarcalendar.com/FF64II.jpg

This is the Joe Jill Speedwin Automotive Car
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6c7bddb6.jpg


note front wheel well openings here & on the restored car
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1d312097.jpg

liteweight

FED 387 02-06-2013 12:11 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
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Liteweight 02-06-2013 01:41 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Chinook dart, Old trapper, Dick Panter, High Roller( Harold Didluck) all the same car.


liteweight

Charlie A 02-06-2013 04:23 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Deadly Dart???

http://www.motorbase.com/uploads/pic...eadly_dart.jpg

Charlie A 02-06-2013 07:11 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Yeah, I know. But it's a cool picture and a real LO23:

http://www.moparfins.com/forum/uploads/26/gsnow60.jpg

Liteweight 02-07-2013 10:46 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 368073)
Chinook dart, Old trapper, Dick Panter, High Roller( Harold Didluck) all the same car.


liteweight

I've been updated by a fellow Canuk on the Alberta LO Darts as follows:

[QUOTE=Chinook dart, Old Trapper, High roller same car sold out of Calgary piloted by Albert and Dick.

Edmonton motors car of Cam's, the demented dart, and the Dick Panter lettered car are the same car. Dick ran that car for a while in the red, white and blue..[/QUOTE]

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps42b188cd.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps75f23585.jpg

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